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If you do not allow for a peaceful evolution, you make only a violent revolution possible.

4:08 AM

It's a shame the leaders of the city are more interested in looting the train system's coffers rather than sharing those benefits back with the very people whose labor keeps that system running.

The policies of the MTA towards its workers (and riders) are reprehensible. It takes real courage to strike against this oppressive government, to attempt to bring attention to the importance of treating the workers and all the people in a much fairer way.

This strike is a real inconvenience to all of us, but it's the city decision makers who are to blame for having run the MTA in such an unjust way.

4:19 AM

Two things, there's not going to be a violent revolution over mass transit employees having their healthcare cut, and secondly, if i could meet the masterminds behind this strike, i'd personally spit in each of their faces. I know fifty people at my campus who now cannot return to their families for the holiday season, and are being forced to spend their break in a hotel off campus until the transit system is running again. You ought to be ashamed of yourselves doing something this stupid this time of the year. Every single worker participating in the strike is extremely selfish and short sighted. To pull something so utterly despicable just shows how unions are corroding American society. We understand your concerns, but now is absolutlely not the time for this. Just saying that other people are being selfish for being angered by the strike is an incredibly irrisponsible way to think. One group of people halts the lives of hundreds of thousands. Who is being selfish?

4:25 AM

You guys really have a lot of balls. All you do is drive around in circles. Your job isn't hard at all. You get paid as much as cops and firemen, while much more as teachers. Something is wrong. You're asking for way too much here. Back down and know your roll. You guys aren't as high and as mighty as you thing.

4:25 AM

By going on strike, transit workers do not gather any sympathy from anyone. This strike is an extremely selfish act prompted by irresponsible union officials. I think you all probably deserve the raise but this is no way to get it! When you pledge to be a public servant you do so above your own personal needs. Get a grip! Stop this illegal strike and go back to work and then sit down and negotiate like responsible businessmen and women.

4:32 AM

These jerks have some nerve trying to seek pity. Nevermind the fact that these assholes average over $50,000 per year, base pay that this, never mind the fact that they make more than NYPD Cops, firemen and teachers. They are nothing more than greedy strike-happy jerkers buoyed by leaders fueled by reckless ambitions

4:33 AM

I am thoroughly disgusted with the TWU. Who are you to think you're above the law? Who are you to take well-paying jobs (for your education levels) serving millions of people and then hold us hostage by striking?

I have a 16 month old son who will be taken to day care today in his STROLLER. In 20 degree weather. I am paid hourly and will lose today's salary.

I hope the MTA and Mayor Bloomberg sue you to the fullest extent of the law. I hope you lose every last penny you've saved for your kids and yourselves.

You are TERRORISTS, and you are irresponsible, and you are pathetic. Welcome to life in the 21st century. EVERYONE pays a portion of their health care and retirement funds!

Get over yourselves and get back to work.

4:35 AM

I'll be interested to see what the comments are on this site, and how long they remain up when you're flooded with critical remarks.

4:36 AM

One giant group of people is being treated badly by a very small group of people in power, who are reaping huge benefits at the masses expense.

Doesn't it seem short-sighted to blame the people who are standing up to say "enough is enough!" rather than blame the cushy people in power who created this terrible situation?

There is never going to be a "good time" to do this. If timing were so important, why did the head of the MTA not even show up to the negotiating table before last Friday's contract deadline? Now THAT'S not sounding like responsible negotiating. And of course the mayor and governor are not showing up, either.

Of course, the mayor and governor will be happy to sue the workers, rather than try to improve the workers' conditions.

It seems you are blaming the wrong parties.

4:36 AM

Shut the city down!

Long live workers power!

4:38 AM

Yes, the city, the mayor, the governor and the MTA may not be angels but you guys are just as wrong when you decided to go on strike and affect thousands of people, like that mother who must take her kid to daycare in a stroller in 20 degree weather! I bet you didn't consider her when you decided to strike. Which part of PUBLIC SERVANT did you not understand?

4:45 AM

You go Transit, I love to walk ...and i don't belong to a union so i can't strike...well it looks like i will be working till age 99 with a adult diaper on...hope i don't get FIRED cause of the smell..

4:54 AM

I fully support the unions in this country.

I am sick and tired of corporate greed being the cause of reduced benefits for the Blue Collar Worker.

Stay strong, you have lots of support

4:59 AM

I hope the strikers realize that besides the fact that they screw (and really there is no other word for what they are doing) with the money of the people who were worse off then the transit workers were to begin with, they are actually endangering other New Yorkers lives in this weather?
Everybody will know in a few hours what you actually make. And what you make is a lot comparing to majority of New Yorkers. Your strike is hurting financially the people with daily wages, people who usually have no medical insurance, no pension plans, who usually have to take mass transit because they don't make enough money to afford anything else (and who definitely make less then TWU workers). Luckily, some of them are making your sandwiches. So, I am hoping the TWU strikers will find some spit in theirs and some piss in the beer they drink between picketing duty.
More importantly shouldn't the strikers be charged in criminal court for endangering peoples' lives? My worst fear is to hear that some elderly person collapsed in this cold trying to walk to where they needed to get. People (and medical staff for that matter) will have hard time getting to the hospitals. Even if it's not an emergency, have you thought about people who need to get dyalisis or radiation treatments?
YOU WORK FOR PUBLIC. AND RIGHT NOW YOU ARE TRYING TO MURDER QUITE A FEW OF US!

5:00 AM

when you self righteous people have to go to your jobs and endure people spitting at you,assaulting you, cursing at you and simply hating you for having enough sense to take the test to get our jobs than you have aright to your misguided opinions.oh yeah how about when you go to work, is there anybody taking a piss a few feet from you or maybe some pervert playing with himself. how about your bosses do they write you up for wearing scarves in the winter time or maybe take you off the job because your top button on your shirt is not buttoned? you opinion filled people have no idea what we go through on a daily basis. at least firemen,teachers, cops and even sanitation are respected for what they do. boo hoo you gotta push your baby in 20 degree weather or you going to lose a days pay. our strike costs us plenty, if you were looking at injuctions and fines and lost wages and you strike anyway doesn't that tell you something? i bet you complain when the mta raises your fare also. this is a billion dollar entity who believes its workers are expendable and you look at us in a negative light for our right to fight for respect and dignity? you should feel fortunate i addressed your moronic statements. thank you and good night.

5:08 AM

It's great that the TWU had the
guts to strike. It will be hard
for New Yorkers, but when there is
no other way to get a fair deal, that's what workers have to do.
The TWU takes its stand for all of us. I wish them all lots of luck
and godspeed.

Sookey

5:20 AM

A question to all who condemn the strike should be: would you take this job, at their pay and conditions? If not, why not?

I think we all know the real answer is of class superiority, disparity and complete apathy towards laborers who clearly are not by any means wealthy or close to it. To condemn these people wanting a fair shake for both new and current members is a shameful day in which the next strategy of the government would presumably be to privatize it.

I hope this strike sheds a bit more of light into the disparity between the rich and the poor to mainstream America.

5:25 AM

to all those who try to bash the strikers, remember the city is well aware their actions will indirectly kill citizens who rely on transit for medical needs. theyre playing the law (which you reader may or may not have voted to enact- think about that) because the law allows them to play the whatevertheheck act & say the strike's illegal. its the same bs bush pulls when he plays the law to torture & spy. theres a corporate culture spreading in this country & im afraid this is the beginning of what well keep seeing as the rick keeeep (for how many years now?) getting richer & the worker bees keep ghetting the shaft. the effects of this kind of ignorance & ridiculously biased thinking ought to make americans think twice about who theyre electing to put this system we live in together. but apparently the media cartels keep throwing engineered propaganda up on the tv & the unknowing masses soak it up, never realizing theyve been robbed of their ability to think, and subsequently vote for themselves. the masters of puppets cash in and squeeze a bit more, and no one sees the creeping fascism behind it all.
whats the bottom line here? people we elected arent treating people as theyd be treated themselves. what can we do about it? i dunno, i personally think an honest-to-goodness miracle is the only thing thatll save us from our cultural issues. all i can do is stay conscious of my actions so im living in the solution rather than the problem & pray for a miracle

5:30 AM

Why doesn't pissed off conductor post his salary as well as his benefits and the value of his pension plan for all New Yorkers to see?

And, oh yeah, why does he ask for respect and dignity from commuters now when good half of the conductors don't bother to show it to the commuters?

5:31 AM

Murder? Terrorists? Are you people on crack?

Thanks to people like you, these words only lose the impact of its very definition. Working for the public does not mean inequality. No decent person can argue that the MTA workers are wealthy enough to be considered greedy. If you can't see this, you ought to work in the tunnels that are carelesslt loitered by riders and infested with rats first perhaps.

5:32 AM

this pissed off conductor, what you said is not just moronic.it's beyond moronic. you guys are a whole bunch of money suckers who only want to make more money. of course you DON'T deserve the kind of respect people give to cops and firemen. for the kind of job you do and the amount of money you get paid, hell, NO, you are demanding for respect? this should be the last thing on your to-do-list. and you guys are mean asses, seriously. just think about the way you people talk to customers!

5:34 AM

Only in America can an immigrant from Haiti, one of the most depressed countries in the world, come to this country become the head of a powerful union - and then shut down the city because he thinks he knows best how to run this country. Your union is playing with the lives and livelihoods of millions of people. You agreed to not strike when you became MTA employees. You are criminals - if you are that dissatisfied, get another job. Oops, no you can't because where else are you going to get paid as much for doing nothing? I don't get full pension until I'm 65 - many companies are pushing for the retirement age to go higher - where do you get off demanding full pension at 55? Get real - this is a different world - there are no more cash cows. And don't go blaming the mayor for your ill-timed, ill-considered, egocentric decision - he has nothing to do with this and tried to help you all come to a fair agreement. YOU decided this! Whether you think the MTA deal was fair or not you've lost any sympathy you might have had from me or millions of other people by calling a strike in the midst of a holiday season. You do it only out of pure selfishness as you know this is supposed to be a joyous time, as well as a high tourist time and an important time for commerce - a strike now puts more pressure on everyone to resolve it. This is all about you. I hope your action bankrupts your union - I hope your members know what it is to suffer without money - oh, yes, that's right - you think you do now, poor babies. When you make as much as firefighters and police officers, people who put their lives on the line everyday for this city, there is something very wrong here. Merry Christmas to you? Bah, humbug. I hope you rot in h---.

5:35 AM

Remember the days of war and the Depression, recall the value and demand that labor garnered in serving this country. Technology has not changed this yet, and since the can is loose, go out and show the people how important your services are.

5:36 AM

A few points for union members to bring back to their leadership before this is taken down:

- Public support for the unions will drop like a rock as everyone sees what they make and the raises proposed.

-There will be actual casualties as a result of the unions called strike from: unavailable medical treatment, weather, etc)

- I see the union thinks that a surplus entitles them to higher than market average raises? As opposed to the taxpayers and fare payers who paid for them?

- The long term loss of public support for the union will not be forgotten by New Yorkers who will live through this.

- You have only hurt your fellow New Yorkers with this strike, mostly in our pockets. Do not expect any sympathy when you can not pay your fines.

5:42 AM

FUCK THE TWU, MAY YOU SUFFER ON CHRISTMAS!

5:43 AM

I am sick and tired of corporate greed being the cause of reduced benefits for the Blue Collar Worker

Anyone who supports this strike is a moron. This isn't "corporate greed," these are public employees... the last group of people who actually get a pension.

I'm glad you guys feel like you are carrying the banner for the labor movement. Truth is you are overpayed.

You should all be fired and replaced.

5:44 AM

You suck. How dare you cripple this city and your customers? Why do you feel that you DESERVE more when you can't even do your job and make sure your riders can get to theirs. You are holding the people of this great city hostage by your demands. I hope they fire all of those that walked off their jobs and offer those 47-55K plus benefit jobs to those people in LA and MO who would give anything for the opportunity to provide for their family. You make me sick.

5:48 AM

Majority of the peoeple in NYC and across the nation are not on your site, you are making people's life difficult. I would not sympathsize you because you are hurting the people not the government. Don't you remember what the holiday season is about? It is about sharing joy and care, not creating grief and inconvenient.

I hope everyone involves think hard and long.

5:49 AM

I think Bloomberg should fire every last one of them, dissolve the Union and immedeately replace all striking workers with people WHO WANT TO WORK.

Here is what we New Yorkers pay for???
see link of sleeping MTA workers at craigslist
http://newyork.craigslist.org/mnh/rnr/118832386.html

5:51 AM

It is sad that people notice other people's problems only when their lives are affected? Would anyone, sincerely, go home for the holidays and think of the driver's problems if the driver's did not go on strike? Would you even mention them?
So, just let them do what they have to do to be heard and to embetter themselves. Everyone in this world should be treated better but it seems like the ordinary people have to take drastic steps just to be noticed. And to the person who thinks that the drivers' work is easy - can you even imagine going in circles constantly? Their job is as important as any other public servant's job - if it wasn't it wouldn't make anyone upset, would it?
To the drivers - I wish you all the best and hope that this matter will be resolved as soon as possible, of course benefitting you. And you ARE public servants but NOT public slaves. Stay strong...

5:52 AM

Problems??? They drive a god damned bus or train...and they make quite a bit. What problems do they have?? And if it's so bad they should go find another job, oh that's right...they are stupid, don't have an education and lack the basic skills necessary to advance. Oh hell, they might as well strike since that's all they have in their bag of tricks. Pathetic. No one supports these assholes, you must have married one of these jackasses.

5:55 AM

i wish everyone affected the best regardless of their position & i think wishing anyone suffering's pointless & counterproductive

5:57 AM

Let's install robot trains! No workers needed!

Fuck you MTA. Uou greedy, uneducated tools make me sick.

There are toll booth workers making 70!

That's an attrocity, when NYC teachers don't even make 1/2 of that!

Maybe if you went to college, you'd understand economics better and realize your services are worth MUCH LESS than the city pays you.

Shut up, quit bitching and DO YOUR JOBS.

They might NOT be there when this is all over.

5:59 AM

Idiots -- There would have been no problem with continuing to sit at that table for 10 more days or 10 more months. You sit in the hierarchy like some maniacal leader of people and decide that the best course of action is to take out your grievences on the people of New York and then have the nerve to ask for our understanding. How about this for understanding -- Shove it up your ass.

I hope that Roger and his friends go to jail for a year and rack up so many penalties that the union itself is thrown into bankruptcy and the members are personally responsible for their penalties essentially cutting their pay by up to 35% per paycheck that gets paid back to the city. Plus, the pension fund will dry up and all those retireies who thought they had the good life go on welfare. I hope that's what happens.

And while Roger is in jail, I hope he meets a nice gangster who got busted jumping a turnstile who takes out his frustrations on Roger's posterior.

Yeah, actually I really hope that happens. Your negotiators are a bunch of jerks and your membership is a bunch of idiots and none of you deserve crap. I hope you all get fired and hired back to non-union positions at a fraction of the pay.

Roger, please please please choke on something today.

5:59 AM

I'll spit at you from now on!

6:00 AM

conductor -- there would have been nothing wrong with continuing to negotiate rather then holding me hostage. I never spit at you.

dick

6:00 AM

you people are selfish jerks. thanks for putting your customers in danger, making them walk to work in the cold a couple of days before the holidays. i heard that's a really good way to earn a raise.

6:07 AM

Good luck guys! I am going to have to bike to work in 20 degree weather, but I'm still behind you one-hundred percent. Why isn't any one saying they want to spit on Bloomberg or the MTA? They are the one's causing this. If they'd put forward a reasonably offer, the TWU wouldn't have been forced into this end-game. I applaud your conviction in this era of weakening unions.

6:09 AM

The actions of the union are nothing but irresponisble and selfish. The demands made in the talks were far from realistic and in the light of ever more expensive health and retirement costs absolutely shortsighted and... as a result... nothing short of stupid.
There are reasons transit workers are not allowed to strike. And when they take these jobs they willingly accept these rules. They have no right to strike! It is as simple as that. What angers me even more is the strategic timing of the strike, even postponing it past the weekend to achieve the biggest chaos possible. Holding the city at gunpoint and now, with the strike, hostage, is purely criminal and I sure hope Roger Toussaint and his crew will be held responsible. When I am going to try to drop my 14 month old son at daycare today and use the 6 train, TWU tells me I have to walk for 1 hour though freezing cold weather because they are on strike. That is a minor problem compared to ambulances and police who might not get to help someone in need on time due to the increased traffic. I hope then it will not be one of the people on the receiving end of the troubles of this strike, but the criminals who initiated it who suffers the consequences.

6:10 AM

I hope Roger Toussant gets syphilous and dies

6:11 AM

Have fun striking, you jerks. I guess you should try and earn as much as possible before your jobs are automated anyway. isn't that sad? your jobs are automated on the L train. shouldn't that one still run then?

6:11 AM

To the mother who must walk with her son in the cold...We all have to do what we have to do...My son has to figure out a way to get to school but is he crying?? NO because he understands that his mother is doing what she has to do.To those that feel this strike is an selfish act on MTA employees parts I say you are the true selfish ones only now thinking about how you'll get to work or around the city when any other time you take us and our duties for granted. It seems actually it is obvious your unappreciativeness towards the people that get you from point a to point b on a daily basis regardless of most circumstances. Belive and trust we do feel bad and apologize for what many of you will feel and for the inconvience our actions may cause but I will not apologize for doing what I can to make a better life for MY CHILDREN and MYSELF and if it means at this point to inconvience the people of NYC then so be it. Why are we the selfish ones?? Why should we work for month or years with out raises. Yes I took this job because of the benefits it affords and I am glad for the most part that I did it serves my purposes for the life I choose to live despite the indfference,mistreatment and disrespect that has been meted out to myself and my coworkers.But I'll be damn if after the opportunity arises to make the things that should/could be/get better better will I apologize. Please please try and understand the reasons for a event that has been long long long over due.

6:14 AM

I'm reading the comments and am truly offended by some of them. Some of you complain about the union workers and what they make and how YOU wished you were making their salaries. Quite simply, take the test. (yes, there are tests for all of the different titles in transit) get hired and see what you will be in for. It takes YEARS to get certain days off. Holidays? Forget about it. The people who work there know of the TRUE greed by the higher ups of transit. The mismanagement of pensions is just the tip of the iceberg. Just do a search about a building LEASED at 2 Broadway. Almost $700 million dollars to renovate a building they don't even own? What about the $200,000 toilets built for managers while the employees get to use the wonderful rusting, smelly ones shared with bugs and rodents? Come on now, MTA workers will be fined and will feel the pinch just like you. They also have kids and families (yes, the poor uneducated slobs have families, just like you) who will be hurt and not be able to get around. How about blaming a company who came to the table with a billion dollar PLUS surplus and didn't want to bargain?

6:14 AM

C'mon, there's no just strike, it's just a strike. You want to gain respect from this selfish action? Go back to work!

6:18 AM

May Toussant die.

6:23 AM

It's really inconvenient that I can't get to school today. However, I support you. You have to do what's right, so don't pay any attention to that (words I can't use here) MTA and the mayor.

6:24 AM

TO MZMTA

I am not crying, my 14 month old might, but thats one of the very few functions of a kid that age, so nothing too bad. I am his dad anyway, not his mom, but what do you know. Yes we rely on you. Because you took a job and made a promise to fullfil it! Like we rely on doctors, firemen and police! Yet they do not let us down like you guys do. They have a sense of duty, while you are nothing but a bunch of looser! I am sure many of you guys will be replaced with people who do know what responisbility really is.

6:28 AM

Totally amazing how many purely selfish 'Anonymouses' there are out there polluting this blog with their foul-mouthed rubbish. Why bother to understand the situation, just curse at people instead!

I always marvelled at the wall murals in Port Authority station depicting a time when New Yorkers wore hats and dressed well. There was a time when New York chose to be cosmopolitan, witty and smart, not surly, violent and crass.

With displays of hate like these, I would say the real terrorists are the ones spewing their vitriol at the Union...

America grows sadder by the day...

6:29 AM

TWU is just a bunch of selfish scumbags...

LISTEN UP, ASSHOLES: IF YOU WANNA MORE PAY, GO GET A F**KING COLLEGE DEGREE!!!! DON'T SACRIFICE THE INTEREST OF THE WHOLE NYC FOR YOUR OWN SAKE!!!!!

6:38 AM

Go, go guys!

We are with you all the way to the MTA headquarters. Your rights are our rights. Don't allow them to break you no matter what. I will certainly look for the nearest strike gathering and join you in your/our fight. Your dignity is our dignity and life without dignity is not worth living. Don't give up and keep your head high.

6:39 AM

this is absolutely rediculous. the transit workers of this city make far more than most of the people would have to ride it. how are those people supposed to get to work. a taxi ride costs about as much as a days work for so many people. i don't know what else to say - i have to leave soon and start walking anyway.

6:39 AM

To all the transit workers who are on this blog and out in the freezing cold on the first day of winter - I hope that you understand the severity of your unlawful strike. If you don't like how you are being treated in your job - quit. You get a great salary for sitting on your asses doing nothing. I was told recently by a transit cleaner that she did not know directions and that she was not supposed to give them because if I got lost I could sue the MTA! UNBELIEVABLE. I know that in a job if you don't know the policies of your company and cannot answer questions asked of you by clients and vendors-you will get fired.

Transit talks about taking "a test", Conductor, well, I am sure that the test you took was curbed because of your below lint intelligence. Let's get this straight, people. The transit workers in NYC are comprised of white trash and minority people who still think of themselves as "slave material". What this strike comes down to is really white rich management against the minority union - next they will start playing the violin and screaming the race card. I bought a monthly pass-who is going to credit me for the days you lazy bums stay off the job?

You transit workers deserve a kick in the rear end and firing from your jobs. To think that you would send old people, infirmed, disabled and pregnant people into the cold, 5 days before Christmas is outrageous. You sure don't deserve a raise for it. We NYers who ride the transit system pay your great salaries and terrific benefits. You should be on your knees thanking God that you even have a job in this rotten economy...yet you still have the gall to tell us you are being disrespected? LAUGHABLE. Get back to work morons - The people of the tri-state area are NOT behind you unless you mean to kick you in the butt.

Come to think of it, don't come back to work - people are going to throw up on you when you do.

6:39 AM

Why doesn't anyone from the TWU post the actual demands, the current contract, and current benefits and salaries (of workers and TWU bosses) so the public can make up its mind about whether to support the TWU or not? I don't doubt that the MTA is a terribly run organization. The incredible budget swings from surplus to deficit year after year suggest terrible mismanagement of the organization. Then again, there seems to be an incredible amount of waste. Upgrades to the subway system take forever. Construction at stations is "in progress" with no-one working for weeks at a time. When there is construction, half the workers are standing around rather than doing any work. I don't doubt the value of transit workers, and a lot could be done at the MTA to improve management and oversight to make better use of available funds, but a strike hurts millions and mostly the poor. It's just not fair to those individuals at the bottom.

6:40 AM

Fire everyone, I mean everyone in the union and hire people who go to work EVERYDAY!

6:42 AM

Its not the strikers screwing you sudden walkers today, but the executives who started this turdball thats rolling downhill & landing on you.

6:45 AM

you are reprehensible to do this at this time of year.

6:46 AM

I think you just pissed off 7 million people.

Everyone understands that you want more money and better benefits. That is not lost on us. But how would you like to have your fire and police protection go on strike? You cannot have it both ways. If you are a vital part of the city like police, fire workers and teachers, you should realize that there is a reason for the law against you striking.

So now this fight seems to be little more than you wanting a bigger slice of the surplus pie.

You know what? I hope they take that surplus and buy robots to replace all MTA workers.

6:49 AM

How quickly 'anonymous' writes in to rant. As I'm from the same family, I'll respond.

"Terrorists"(?) Haven't you learned any other words from the ideas spoonfed you by your television? "as much as cops and firemen"? Do some research. A first year cop in NYC makes very little money. Why? He or she was SOLD OUT by their union. The teachers took an awful contract as the budget is balanced on the altar of taxcuts and 'war on terror'.

The TWU, of which I am not a member, is refusing to saddle future employees with the greed of the double booked MTA. They have taken no pay increases for a couple of years and now want a share of the surplus.

"spit it the face" "50 people on ...campus" "unions are corroding American society" Take a history class. And practice saying: "Do you want fries with that?" In Chinese.

The moment your precious spoiled American lives are inconvenienced you immediately blaim the worker, maybe he or she is a different color, maybe you're in a fancy college (working your way through, I'm sure), maybe - for now - you have an office job and can afford to take you child to daycare. There is a poem that starts:

First they came for the trade unions

As you spoiled brats obviously have internet access, use google and see how it ends.

6:50 AM

You really blew it this time, Toussaint. Not only are you causing inconveniencing many commuters--not including myself since I WALK to work--you are also financially destroying the employees you ostensibly represent.

If any good comes out of this, it will be that NY and the rest of the country will realize just how irrelevant the unions have now become.

6:52 AM

I have no sympathy for the union. None. Unions are designed for people who have done nothing to lift themselves up economically, allowing them to cry, "poor, pitiful me". Why should I pity you? You knew before you accepted your jobs what the pay would be, and what the working conditions would be like. You took the job with eyes wide open, so why should I feel sorry for you now? ....I'm glad you're striking, it gives the country another reason to hold contempt for unions. Most of your union jobs are going to China anyway, thanks in part to your outrageous demands. I've been in the workforce for 20 years, and have a B.S. degree from a major university, and only recently did my salary catch up to my brother's, who has a union job. Hooray for the union? I don't think so...his factory is closing and its production is moving offshore, where wages are cheaper. Wake up, America. Every time this happens we ALL lose.

6:52 AM

You really blew it this time, Toussaint. Not only are you causing inconvenience to many commuters--not including myself since I WALK to work--you are also financially destroying the employees you ostensibly represent.

If any good comes out of this, it will be that NY and the rest of the country will realize just how irrelevant the unions have now become.

6:53 AM

Does anyone know where the strikers are in Brooklyn? I want to join them in their fight. If anyone knows of locations in Brooklyn, please post them here so that we can show our support for the workers.

Bless you in your struggle, workers!

6:53 AM

The MTA has a one billion dollar surplus.Why do they continue to insult Local 100 mebers by offering them the minimum numbers of 9% over 3 years when they can do much better! The interest alone could improve the lives of the workers and there families. The general public needs to understand that the workers did not want to stike ther hand was forced by the MTA. They work in very dangerous conditions every day 24/7 in all kinds of weather underground and outside. While the average new yorker is in there office drinking hot coffee transit guys are outside freezing there butts off so you can get to work. Support Local 100 in there fight for decent wages and benifits because they help new yorkers every day 24/7.

6:54 AM

How irresponsible and selfish. Words can not even describe the unesssary anarchy you have cast upon our great city. Perspective? Your salary is comparable to those of our emergency workers and far more than our teachers. How would you really feel/react if those chose to strike? Additionally, your salaries are likely far more than the poor and elderly who absolutely rely on public transportation to get to their low-paying jobs and/or get to their pharmacists / doctors. For the greater good - Get back to work while talks continue!!!

6:55 AM

Sometimes a strike is the only way to get the attention of the bosses. Good luck to all the workers, and I hope for everyone's sake the negotiations are started again.

6:57 AM

To MZMTA:

First, you have to go back and learn how to express yourself correctly in the English language. Too many run on sentences that make you sound unintelligent and unable to speak well. Spell check works wonders and it is amazing how you got a city job in the first place.

Secondly, the reason why people spit at you and your co-workers (if they do-I've never seen it, even though I felt like doing it several times) is because transit workers on the whole are nasty towards riders. They never answer a question because usually they do not know the answer.

Third, tell you son that he should not tell his classmates that his mum works to transit - he may come home with black eyes and broken bones.

Now, my transit experiences have never been too bad because I know a lot of transit people and are friendly with them. I know that some of them do not agree with the union yet are forced to go out on strike or be turned against by their brother/sister members. The MTA surplus does not belong to the union - it belongs to the people who ride the trains to improve the subway system. Granted the subway needs a lot of work after all it is over 100 years old, however, it took a downhill plunge when minority blacks first started to work in the subway back in the 70s. Before that the subways were very efficient and clean. If you want respect, be courteous to people, dress in your uniforms with being sloppy and looking like homeless people; only then will you get the respect you so desperately seek.

Lastly, MZ, I gotta tell you, this strike does not bode well for you and your members. Unions have been infamous for putting dues in their pockets and ignoring membership problems. If your union goes under, you will not have a job to count on, nor benefits to make you and your family comfortable, and with your education you may be jobless a very long, long, long time.

7:00 AM

How PATHETIC! The MTA has a $1 billion surplus. Ok, I understand they have the affordability to negotiate with the union for a better deal. But the fact alone they have the money is NOT causation for a better deal. That is greed in and of itself-and sad at that in lieu of the holiday season. MTA wants to raise the full pension age from 55 to 62, and rightfully so. Just look at the retirement age for the typical American worker. Also, MTA workers earn between $47,000 and $55,ooo a year! Outrageous. Such a salary would cause one to think they were accountants.
Already, the average salary and retirement age are SUPERIOR to that of the typical blue-collar worker. Take a worker for the city of Philadelphia for example. On average, I would estimate the annual salary rests in the $35,000 to $45,000 range with retirement coming no earlier than 60 years of age. Requesting any greater figures is absurd, greedy, and disrespectful. They should be ashamed of themselves. They think not of the New Yorker at the most important of all travel times, but of themselves getting overpaid. Bah-Humbug!

7:04 AM

Anonymous said...
[...]
There are toll booth workers making 70!

That's an attrocity, when NYC teachers don't even make 1/2 of that!
[...]

Actually, the starting salary is more than half that. Do some research if you want your argument to have any weight.

7:05 AM

You sure do have a B.S. degree, and science isn't the second word. You watched your standard of living degrade since the 80s and you continue to believe Ronald Reagan's lies. Unions are only irrelevent because Americans study history by watching American Idol.

So when we're all paid the equivilent wage as a worker in China, will we be given free housing (they are in China). Will rents be rolled back to the price of an apartment in a New Delhi slum? Are you looking forward to the same health services that are available to Nikes workers in Vietnam? Don't worry, there will be a TV show about Mike Bloomberg where he gets to see a doctor regularly.

7:05 AM

Assholes

7:06 AM

To the Guy with the BS degree at 652am posting. I have a BA degree from Hunter college and have worked with the MTA for 20 years. I have friends who also have degrees that have worked for the MTA just as long. Sure you have no sympathy for us because it's taken you a long time to reach our salary: But who's fault is that! Not the hard workers of local100, just you! get a grip on life and stop being bitter at you own lack of motivation. at least we take action when we want somthing thats the difference between us and everyone else. people who want somthing out of life grab for it and take action they don't sulk arouind like you. Nobody said life was easy so take the high rode before you insult the hard working men and women of my union local 100

7:06 AM

thank you for your leadership, roger toussaint. your union is raising the bar for ALL of us! keep up the struggle. i support TWU 100%.

7:09 AM

Bad Deal! The TWU should be grateful for what they have as 25% of this city continues to live below the poverty level, while union workers live the life. While most New York Blue Collar Workers are only asking for a fair and decent wage, the transit workers ask for superior wages, benefits, retirement monies and the like, and have no idea how good they have it. Being greedy and always wanting more is a poor and undesirable trait. And to do such a thing around the holidays is in such bad taste, where the city and the hundreds of thousand small business owners, million school children, teachers, college students, healthcare workers, firefighters, police, and all other people, in addition to the city's transit workers, who make this city tick, will have to scramble just to get their work done. What a very selfish union! How sad for those who don't want to strike and are forced to, and will be without work themselves while the union carries out this unsavory mission.

7:13 AM

500%

7:14 AM

Unions should be outlawed. They have outlived their usefulness and are now nothing more than "legalized" blackmail. If you don't like your job, quit! This is what the vast majority of americans do. I hope they fire all of you!

7:15 AM

Shame shame shame on all you TWU members.

Wake up and get with reality, this is USA in 2005 and not communist North Korea.

Wow, I wish my company would give me the benefits you want to get.

You break the law, you force me to stay home and lose my pay. When my kids ask me why our Xmas is miserable I will have to explain that some selfish Grinches at the TWA union decided to mess it up for all New Yorkers, and when for Christmas. Couldnt you wait.

SHAME SHAME SHAME. I have no sympathy for ANY OF YOU and I hope that you all LOSE tons of money and go into bankruptcy.


SHAME ON YOU

7:19 AM

To the graduate of Hunter College with 20 years experience, etc...
You are so full of shit. Your union local 100 is nothing other than a knock off of what unions truly are (or at least were decades ago). You should be ashamed. So what, there is a $1 billion surplus. Surely it is not because of your "dedication" to the job. It is because officials of MTA worked their ass off to achieve better margins. MTA workers city and nationwide are known for their ignorance to the common traveler. Not that the simple fact of being an asshole should take away from the negotiating table, no I agree-you should have a fair negotiation. But considering you make nearly $20,000 more base pay alone than most hard working Americans (ones who put in more time and effort), you deserve at best an offer below what has been presented. I can't even leave it at that. No, I must note the fact the those already employed are not having their full-pension age changed, rather only for new employees. And the change is proposed from 55 to 62. Wow, imagine that. You would actually work almost as long as everyone else has to in this world. And you even receive full pension, which I might add is hard to achieve for most blue-collar workers.
You make me sick. Earn your pay and go back to work you greedy assholes.

7:20 AM

DISRESPECT???

If Mr. Roger Toussaint feels his workers are so disrespected, he should publish a list of his members' current salaries and benefits and see how much additional support he can get...

7:20 AM

To Mr. "How Pathetic" an accountant would tell you to learn the difference between Gross pay and Net pay. Net pay is when the average transit worker brings home Half of that so called $47,000 salary you believe he gets and has to pay his bills!! So you try living off of $23,000 with 3 kids and a wife and mother in-law!!!

7:20 AM

The Union is going to lose BIG TIME! 34,000 workers vs 7,000,000 NYer's looks awefully arogant. I hope the unon gets fined multiple millions of dollars. The union members will regret this strike, as any gains they may make by holding the city hostage will have to be paid many times over in the form of HUGE fines imposed on them for ILLEGALY striking.

7:21 AM

Here is a question for those who are bitching over transit workers complaining about making 50k a year? How much does the MTA executives make sitting on their asses smoking cigars and living a lavish lifestyle. You must think that because most transit workers are Minorities, they should be happy with what they get working their asses off, having to deal with rats, riding millions of passengers a day. Its funny that all spokespeople in the media against this strike is white. Coincidence - I dont think so.

7:23 AM

Great job you guys! It is nice to see some workers still have some backbone! I just read the AP article on you guys--what propaganda. You have every right to strike, and anybody that is jealous of your salaries and benefits should be striking along with you. The City and People of New York owe you, and everyone else, a decent wage, not just the a**holes on Wall Street.

Striking is an American tradition, and it is the only reason we have such a strong country. We need more of it.

7:24 AM

SHAME SHAME SHAME. GO TO HELL TWU! GO TO HELL!

7:24 AM

The members of the Transit Union are all an obvious bunch of COWARDS. Each and every one of you should be ashamed of yourselfs. If it were possible, I would enjoy seeing ALL of you lose your jobs. Your failure of a President has some incredible nerve to ask all New Yorkers to support them. He is a looser, and all who follow him are loosers too.

7:26 AM

To the respondant of "How Pathetic"...Actually, an accountant would laugh in your face because you typically pull in 70% of the gross: leaving you with approx. $33-39,000 net you moron. Most blue-collar workers who actually work harder and have more to deal with financially make that amount gross.

7:27 AM

I believe anyone striking who began working before the Taylor law was enacted might have a legitimate claim to strike. For the 99.9999% of the rest of you, I hope the courts come down hard. It makes me long for the good old days. During WWII, FDR told striking transit workers in Philadelphia that they would no longer be considered essential war effort personnel and would be immediately eligible for the draft. The strike ended the next day.

7:27 AM

You've lost my support. Stay on strike as long as you like--I hope the City/State of NY hold out. You're greedy and you've screwed the people of NY this time. -RICK

7:28 AM

The selfishness of the Transit Workers Union--particularly when we all know how much money the members make and the benefits they already enjoy compared to most people in the private sector, including most people who depend on them everyday--is a scandal. To strike at this time of year is unconscionable. I hope the governor nails you guys to the wall.

7:30 AM

How do I get a job like this and get a great pension and allowed to retire at 55?

http://newyork.craigslist.org/mnh/rnr/118832386.html

7:33 AM

To the post of "Here is a question for those who are bitching over transit workers complaining about making 50k a year?"...
Again, causation of one does not give rights for specific behavior of another. "Just because Matt has a candy bar doesn't mean Mike should too." That is communism you asshole. And if the workers happen to be monorities, yes they should be happy with what they are getting--which is MORE than the majority of American works including firemen, policemen, and teachers (those who make up this great--well, once great--nation). And for your comment about the anti-strike commentators being white: obviously you are of minority background. And I am not being degrading at all, frankly only you are by bringing such a comment in.-of which is sad. It just happens to be a white male/female dominated role in the workplace, nothing more. Just like the majority of financiers are male and not female-same comparison.

7:33 AM

This isn't just a strike for New York's transit workers, it's a strike for all of us. We suffer nationwide from an erosion of the benefits that our parents and our grandparents took for granted. Suddenly, we are being asked to pay for our own health insurance, and to take from our own wages to pay for retirement benefits.

It begins at 1%, then 2%, then 10%, and now, many workers across America have 50% of the cost of their health insurance automatically deducted from the wages that they worked for and earned. So many of us stand by and watch, powerless, but the New York Transit Union does not.

The number of uninsured Americans grows every year. Social Security is suffering and corporate lobbyist budgets grow and grow, along with the defecits of our governmental bodies. If powerful unions such as ours in New York do not step up and show a voice, over time we shall all be coaxed gently into a stupor, believing that health care and the right to grow old dignified are a luxury only for the rich. Is that America?

What do I say to this strike that will put boots on my feet and send me walking through the cold?

Bravo! is what I say. Bravo! for those with a voice and the courage to use it. Bravo! for those who speak for themselves, and in doing so, speak for me.

7:35 AM

If a Union cant strike whats the point of paying dues?

7:36 AM

I just saw Bloomberg walk on the Brooklyn bridge. Maybe he will know now how I feel when I walk because I can't afford to pay the MTA subway fare. To those who are attacking the workers, do you remember the two-book scandal of two years ago? Do you remember MTA's lies about the lack of profit when they were making huge profits? What did the politicians in NY do to stop them from raising the fare after their lies about their profits? Nothing! FYI, the MTA is planning another rise in the fare and you better thank TWU for fighting for you (spoiled brats) and I do pray that they manage to stop this rise.

Long live the workers!

7:36 AM

Ass kissers, no integrity, submisive bitches, lazy, media inspired, jerry springer, hockey watching people who attack those fighting for their rights are usually the one who gossip and brown nose their way in too jobs.

7:37 AM

Go for it, I wish the city could replace all transit strikers.

And something all you TWU jerks seem to forget is:

YOU ARE BREAKING THE LAW

Now please TWU, explain to me why you are so special and allowed to break the law.

7:38 AM

Please get back to the bargaining table! The strike is killing me and my small business! The MTA is irresponsible, but to take it out on us is reprehensible! You need to make some concessions!

7:38 AM

To the striking workers:

You are all a bunch of self-centered, greedy sheep who deserve to be fired. Yeah, you're "sticking it to the man," but you're hurting millions of your fellow New Yorkers in the process. You should be ashamed of yourselves.

7:40 AM

Making it illegal to stike is communist

7:41 AM

Blame the MTA for this! You brown nose idiots?

7:42 AM

To the guy who "can't afford to pay the MTA subway fare"....yeah, and how can you pay for online internet services? Moron

7:42 AM

FUCK the union

7:43 AM

I appreciate many of your concerns regarding the contract negotiations, but striking, though may prove a point, hurts more people than it helps.

My annual salary is less than half than the lowest paid transit worker in the system, and now I am going to lose at least one if not more days of pay due to the strike.

Thanks for that - and happy holidays.

7:44 AM

Finally,

I am glad that the TWU Local 100 is on strike. It is time for the Union to Stand Up Together for fight for a common cause. Better Benefits and a slightly better wage increase. I was a very disheartened employee of the MTA NYCT for over 11 years. After the Union folded over at the last contract, I was compelled to leave and find employment with decent benefits and no Gestapo management over my head.

I support those who are doing their strike duty and shame on those who aren't.

Many Blessings

7:47 AM

A TWU strike at any time only serves to burden the public, not the MTA. Even more important, striking is illegal. But to strike at this time of year is unconscionable. Even assuming that the MTA has acted unfairly and that the TWU has a valid position (which is a large assumption given that the pay and benefits for its members are apparently higher and better than for any other union or union member anywhere in the US), at a minimum, the union could have waited until January 2nd to have gone on strike and made pay and benefits for this period an element of its claims. The biggest threat to this country comes from groups like these which seem unconcerned with the havoc their actions will cause. If you're dissatisfied with your wages, there is an option besides completely burdening 7 million other people . . . find a new job.

7:48 AM

Our family stands with the union. There are many people who can't or refuse to see beyond their noses and fail to recognize that there is a stake for all workers in your struggle -- especially those who don't have unions.

The Taylor law is un unjust law, that deprives the workers of the only weapon they have to defend their rights. Only repressive regimes resort to such laws. It was once legal to own slaves, too, and slaveowners had the full legal system on their side against those who challenged them...

Good luck to the union.

Fran, Queens


Best of luck to you.

Fran, Queens

7:49 AM

The Transit Workers Union are performing Domestic terrorism on the city of New York for no other reason than to satisfy the greed of the Union Leaders.

The fact that the MTA may have a surplus does not automatically qualify the union to take that surplus. The MTA has a long way to go to bolster their ridership and improve services and that all costs money which won't be possible if that money goes to the workers.

The average union worker is far better off than many New Yorkers and this is a prime example of Greed-Lock not love for your fellow New Yorker.

The only benefit is that as a result of this strike and the result of many having to think more creatively more people will find and embrace non-transit means of working such as telecommuting, corporations using reliable private sector transportation, etc.

Too bad the poor workers in the city will now be losing valuable needed pay at a time of year when that pay is so important as many try to provide little "extras" for their families around the Holidays.

Both the MTA and the Transit Union are saying a big "Bah Humbug" to the residents and workers of NYC.

7:50 AM

Merry F*cking Christmas, you selfish f*cks!

7:51 AM

I had at first had sympathy for the Union's cause but upon hearing the min and max and average wages - and the fact that you refused arbitration, I have no sympathy for the Union. This is extortion during the winter and holiday season to boost a negotiating point. Many people far worse off than the union are suffering. Get with reality and recognize that 90+ % of people in this area will never be able to retire by 55 and that pensions across america are going to default. Sad state of America, yes, but unfortunately the rest of us are in the same boat with retirement age and pensions. Your going to loose public support on this one. You want my support back - go to an arbitrator.

7:55 AM

New Yorkers stand by the TWU!!!!

HOLD STRONG!!! WE can do it together!! Thank you for leading the fight against a decrease in pay and health care benefits!!

This is important for ALL of us and New York is PROUD of TWU for standing up for themselves and workers around the world....

7:56 AM

Why are there MTA workers on this blog??? why aren't you out there fighting w/the rest of your brothers/sisters of the TWU?? You are taking your fight out on the very people that pay for your salaries and benefits! The sad part is, many of the TWU workers I know don't support this strike! You voted for this foreigner to be president of this union, now live with it! This is a selfish act and your only hurting the economy of this City!

7:57 AM

Thank you for having the courage to stand up for your rights in the face of mass adversity. The reason we even have jobs that are inconvenienced by a strike of mass transportation is due to workers like you. Be strong and thank you.

7:57 AM

I think that EVERYONE is selfish.

there is such an amazing lack of even an attempt at understanding. one side thinks they are right, another side thinks that they are right.

there is no solution.

perhaps we've lost sight on what runs this city - and what we take for granted.

when the subway fare went from 1.50 to 2 dollars, where did all that money go? when the fare hike went into effect, i asked some workers if any of them got a raise, of course not.

students panicking about their exams and everyone else protesting in their small little fishbowl reality, without recognizes that everything is connected.

we are all in it together.

i admire and respect the courage of the union.

i don't care how this strike affects the economy. we've become slaves to this american god and have been since we were born.

what i feel terrible about are the other hardworking people of this city who have to lose their day's pay, and have to walk in this cold weather with their children, the people who have to go to the doctor, and so forth.

people everywhere are tired, perhaps instead of hitting your head on the wall trying to make today work out like every other day like a robot, you might do everyone else a favor and try to slow down + relax.

7:58 AM

The union is shooting itself in the foot. How can you think this is the right thing to do? I cannot believe you would be that foolish. I hope you all lose your jobs. There are plenty of hard working people that will gladly take your place, for even LESS money and benefits than you make NOW...forget about your increases.

7:59 AM

screw the twu and all it's members. i hope your kids have a miserable christmas and that you all lose your jobs. all you union jekrs is more money, more money. you don't give a damn about the people who pay your wages...you know the riders who don't get raises. you get rich, we get poor.

7:59 AM

simple, you gotta do what you gotta do!!!!
yes "the police and fire dept. worked without contracts for months, years" as Governor Pitaki said, does he see that he actually took advantage of all those unions? Where is the mayor or governor when the MTA raises the fare on US? When they have two books? when the MTA just does not respect the worker! I don't mind doing a little walking, this will be a great opportunity to begin that excercise routine. We all know NY needs it.

8:03 AM

as a transit rider with a family I support the strike!!!!! its about time americans woke up and stand up for their workers rights!!!

8:03 AM

For those who feel "outraged" at the salaries of the union workers:

If union salaries drop to non-union level, then non-union salaries will fall to Taiwan, China and Bangladesh levels -- at New York City cost of living!

If union pensions are undermined, it will be the poorhouse for the rest of us.

Even when they don't represent us directly, unions at least establish a standard for us to look up to.

Don't fall for Bloomberg's, Pataki's and Kalikow's lines. They don't care about you. They only care for their rich friends.

8:05 AM

Why dont you union fucks look for another job if you dont like it.... wait, you cant cos you have NO education.

Give me a freakin break, you are pathetic. I have no sympathy for you law breaking jerks.

Yes you are breaking the law you stupid ignorant fucks

8:06 AM

Now who's really a sheep here... those who are in it all day & see what's really going on- or those who are reacting out of anger because they don't see the bigger picture.
All you whiners out there think about your kids' eroding rights.
Oh, & I remain anonymous because it seems ridiculous to give personal information away as my personal information has no correlation to the content of this debate.
This registering thing on the web's another peeve of mine. Plus its quicker.

8:08 AM

COCKSUCKERS!!!! THANK YOU MTA SCUM FOR RUINING MY FUCKIN DAY YOU FUCKTARDS! YOU SHOULD ALL BE ARRESTED!!! THE FUCKIN NERVE OF YOU PEOPLE FUCKIN UP EVERYONE'S TRANSPORTATION!!! WHERE DO YOU FUCKERS COME OFF!!! AND TO THE MAYOR, SOME FUCKIN CONTINGENCY PLAN YOU GOT THERE! WHERE ARE ALL THE NON-UNION WORKERS TO TAKE OVER TO RUN THE TRAINS AND BUSSES?!?

FUCK THE UNION AND FUCK YOU!

8:09 AM

To all the pathetic, selfish anonymous crybabies worried about Christmas. Go to the refrigerator, make a sandwich, and take it outside to one of the thousands of homeless people that got evicted from the subways (their home) last night. Our beloved Mayor has NO Contingency Plan for them. He's to worried about MONEY.

8:10 AM

Ha! MTA workers my ass, I am from Philly... Why are there suits on this blog? Go back to managing your stupid companies and making BIGGGGGGGGGG profits for yourself.... selfish prick...

And for the record, I know a bunch of TWU workers and they ALL support this strike. It isn't even a question. And I will bring out this card, the MTA workers in New York were there for US through everything New York has gone through - (September 11th anyone??)

NEW YORK HOLDS STRONG THE TWU!!!

But September 11th isn't even the issue here, living wages for a tough job and good health care benefits are!!

HOLD STRONG!

8:10 AM

AFTER READING SOME OF THE COMMENTS POSTED ON THIS PAGE, I CAN UNDERSTAND WHY THE UNION IS ASKING FOR MORE MONEY, THEY DEAL WITH THIS NEGATIVE, EGOTISTIC, SELFISH, AND JUST PLAIN RETARTED ATTITUDE 365 DAYS A YEAR! GOOD LUCK!

8:11 AM

Fight for what is right. MTA has gone to pieces since the Bloomberg administration.

-2 Fare Hikes
-Cooked up Books
-Mystery surplus
-Train lines without conductors
-More machinces, less booth tellers; farewell saftey

and the big one...MTA cries about being broke.... but accepts a much smaller bid from the mayor to build a stadium for the Olympics, instead of the very handsome one offered by Cablevision

MTA NEEDS TO PAY UP!!!

8:12 AM

To all you TWU fucks, you signed up for a job that prohibits you to strike - you are breaking the law.

If you can read, take a look at http://www.goer.state.ny.us/cna/bucenter/taylor.html

If you dont agree you shouldnt have signed up for the job.

Jerks

8:12 AM

I hope all of you lose your jobs.

8:14 AM

Unions throughout the country have been bullied in that last 5 years. If it was up to big companies - we'd be paying sweatshop wages and back to locking the doors of factories. OSHA wouldn't exist... I hope that this doesn't last long for the sake of the transit workers who are being fined, the weather working against all of us, and the people who will be walking, driving, carpooling to work...

And, yes a good point is made- for all of those on here who are against the strike - why don't you work for the MTA? If it doesn't take brains and they have it so easy with good pay, then it's a dream job right? Wrong... most customer service based jobs are hell in many ways... and the subways and buses are no exceptions. There aren't that many jobs where at some point you may find yourself saving a man who was just stabbed and pushed into the tracks, finding a dead body in the tunnels, or a ton of other problems.

8:16 AM

Are you workers NUTS? Retirement at age 55. Only government related jobs ever have such a benefit. It is funny how government employees think it is perfectly OK to have everyone else pay inflated fees and taxes so that they can retire at age 55 when the vast majority of non-government workers have no such option. If everyone had the benefits the TWU has prices for everything would be twice what they are and the whole economic system would collapse.

8:17 AM

What's fair? Is 2% a year raise fair for a cost of living allowance (COLA)? Is 3%?

MTA board members are wealthy millionaires sitting on a $1 billion dollar surplus. They are not one time events. Next year, the surplus will balloon to $2 billion. A $1 billion dollar surplus divided by 35,000 employees divided by an overhead factor of 2 = $14,286 per employee.
Divide that by $55,000 avg. salary = 26%.

26% is what the MTA can afford. Over three years, that's about 9% a year. That's how much the MTA can give out. The union is asking for 6% (which to me seems high but reasonable). If you increase the profit to you're bosses trememdously, you ask for a raise, stock options, a bonus. TWU and ATU can not receive ANY of those incentives. All they get is salary increases and promotions.

The price of housing went up 100% in 4 years (25%). Food went up dramatically. Energy prices even went up 100% in 2 years. Almost every facet of living in the NYC has gone up. Middle class people can't live in the city anymore. It's not a living wage.

NYC Transit operators are the LEAST paid in the tri-state area.
PATH operators get more, NJ Transit operators get more, Metro-North operators get more, LIRR operators get more. YET, NYC is the highest in cost of living with the least amount of pay. That is simply ridiculous.

I believe, that the TWU and ATU would accept 4%, 4% and 4%. Currently, the MTA is offering 3%, 4% and 3.5%. Hopefully, for the sake of city, I believe that the MTA can settle this by offering the union 4%, 4%, and 4% (touching nothing else).

Let's see we're talking about 1%. 1% x $55,000 = $550 x 35,000 people = $19.25 million per year x O.H. of 2 = $38.5 million per year.
Or about $105,000 per day.
The powers that be are willing to COST the city $400,000,000 a day to skimp on paying transit workers an extra $100k per day.

Even though it's an inconvenience, 90% of the people can still make it in. Walking, bicycling, carpooling, skateboarding, taxi.
People are very adaptable.

You tell me, is 3% average increase fair? Or does the average worker feel, they are losing ground, year by year, as they get their 3%.

8:18 AM

Typical of the over paid, under utilized unions of New York State. One of the reasons I left years ago.
Every union employee striking, which is illegal, should be rounded up, thrown in jail, and fined to the highest levels allowed by law.
START LOOKING FOR REPLACEMENT WORKERS. NORTHWEST AIRLINED DID IT!!

8:21 AM

The TWU President is a jerk off. Go back to work you lazy fucks.

8:22 AM

Just want to let you guys know you have my full support.

I normally commute an hour from Brooklyn to Manhatten to get to work. I ride the subways in total for 2 hours a day and I can't stand it!

You guys have to deal with being in that dank whole of a subway all work day and during your commute home!

Everyone can now see what a vital part of this city you workers are! You deserve to be treated with the dignity you deserve!

And now with NYC at a high terror alert and transit systems under threat, you guys put yourselves at risk everyday. I would feel a lot safer if you guys were trained to deal with an emergency like that.

According to the New York times the average worker makes $47,000, but the average house even in the most ghetto neighborhood is half a million!

What you're asking for is what any respectable person deserves; the ability to feed and raise thier family in this ever more expensive city.

8:22 AM

The reason people are not as mad at MTA, as they are at the Union leaders, is that the Union rejected their last contract offer instead of continuing to negotiate or go to arbitration. Also most people understand that life expectedly is going up so raising the pension age for new works just makes logical sense. The surplus should be spent on improving communications systems incase there is a terrorist attack. The workers have a good point about the Mta punishing people too harshly for minor infractions, but that wasn’t even an issue in the contract talks and could have been settled in arbitration.

8:23 AM

WHY HASN'T ANYONE DISCLOSED HOW MUCH THOSE MTA OFFICIALS MAKE A YEAR OR HOW BIG THIER SALARY RAISES ARE?

8:25 AM

have we all forgotten how currupt the MTA is with thier double-books? And thier so called "deficits" that keep turning into surpluses, and then deficits again when they want to raise the fare.

8:27 AM

I am very proud of you for standing up for yourselves. All of the self-serving idiots who take advantage of your services can finally understand how valuable you truly are. I commend you, and wish you each a happy and safe holiday. If everyone would follow your lead and stand up for their rights as citizens, this country would be in a much better place.

~Natalie

8:27 AM

Let's get to the TRUE heart of the matter of this Strike . . .

This strike was caused by three major factors:

1) Pataki's Prisidential Aspirations - He's looking for ways to make it to The White House. True, Conservative Republicans do not support candidates that "back down" or show le-way (sp) towards Unions.

2) Money - This one is defininately a no-brainer. A $1 billion surplus is too much money on the table to ignore. It was the MTA that cried broke on the last contract only to have Alan Hevesi & co. uncover THREE sets of books. The TWU nor the public have forgotten this. Why not, in the interest of fairness, "spread the wealth" amongst the workers that truly move this city? Why not give the TWU workers 18% in their contract just like the other City agencies have received?

Finally, and I REALLY hate to go there, The Race Card - Let's be realistic, if the TWU workforce was comprised & led by Whites & Italians instead of "a foreign President", Blacks and other minorities, this contract would have been settled in good faith months ago with an impressive wage package and more = 10%, 10%, 10% - GUARANTEED!

Now, that this strike is now a reality, I hope that the city finally sees the MTA for what it truly is - an evil empire! As an afterthought, if this strike happens to get to the magnatude of Federal involvement, stand by.

SOMETHING HAS TO GIVE! SOMEONE WILL EVENTUALLY BLINK!

8:27 AM

The reason people are not as mad at MTA, as they are at the Union leaders, is that the Union rejected their last contract offer instead of continuing to negotiate or go to arbitration. Also most people understand that life expectedly is going up so raising the pension age for new works just makes logical sense. The surplus should be spent on improving communications systems incase there is a terrorist attack. The workers have a good point about the Mta punishing people too harshly for minor infractions, but that wasn’t even an issue in the contract talks and could have been settled in arbitration.

8:29 AM

You workers have a tough job- you have my support! Best of luck!

8:29 AM

Sticking with the contract expiration deadlines (or as close as possible) is important. All the municipal unions that accepted work without a contract in the past, haven't seen a timely contract in over a decade (like the teachers, the police, etc.) Sometimes they work for two or more years without a contract.

The city knows that if they hold out on those contract negotiations long enough, any deal will appear much sweeter than it actually is.

It's a negotiating tactic that works only in favor of management.

TWU is right to stick to a deadline.

8:29 AM

To think that the workers should be thinking about your personal holiday shopping, your trips home and to work show just how unappreciated and invisible the workers of this city are. They are fighting, not only to keep their benefits for the people who will eventually be hired, but also for all working people who's benefits are cut, a living wage for the workers that run this city, and an annual cost of living increase.

It is you who should be ashamed to think your personal selfish needs should be met before the consider their own.

The reason people have been in the habit of saying that "no one gets a 6% increase", "everyone nowadays must put in a huge percentage for benefits", and that "no one gets to retire at 55" is because people have not been fighting for the future working class, nor themselves. Unions have been excepting contracts that weaken their power in the long run and given their newest workers no protection. Workers have been forced and have grown accustomed to being denied the bonus and benefits the higher ups receive. We SHOULD be paid good salaries, receive benefits and get to retire when we still have the time to enjoy life. We are workers who are always given scraps from the bowl and yes this must come to an end.

I am really glad TWU went on strike-- and no I am not a transit worker nor do I know of any personally.

8:30 AM

"We understand your concerns, but now is absolutlely not the time for this."

Anonymous writer-- do you hear yourself?

8:31 AM

I am a transit user and Staten Island resident with no car.

I support you 100%

We need transit workers who are not worrying about basic issues such as health care, retirement, or how they will pay for their kids tuitions.

We need a solid middle class workforce in NYC.

8:33 AM

Illegal,
It was illegal for women to vote.
-That was changed after many women were arrested protesting that.

It was illegal for slaves to be free.
- That was changed after the entire nation plummeted into a civil war.

It was illegal for abortions -leading to millions of unwanted babies
- That was changed.

It was legal, to dump barrels of toxins right behind peoples residences - that was changed.

Just because it's legal or illegal, doesn't make it right.
The laws will be changed at a later date.

8:33 AM

Why would any of the MTA workers want to "find a new job"? Where could they find a job with the pay and benefits they are already receiving?

Workers that think it is horrible that they pay some of the cost of their health insurance and retirement have absolutely no clue what these things cost. Ans then to demand that they shoulf be able to retire at age 55, they are out of their minds.

Why do you think systems like Social Security are struggling like they are? Social Security was originally designed as an "insurance" program that offered p[rotection to those turning 65 at a time when the average life expectancy was 62. The benefit age remained the same (65) as the life expectancy increased. Simple economics say this can't continue without significant increases in taxes. Now the TWU wants to maintain full benefits (including health coverage I would assume) at age 55. It is a recipe for disaster. Ask General Motors.

If there is a huge surplus at the MTA, how about lowering fares so those that make much less than the TWU employees can keep a little more of what they earn?

8:33 AM

Thank you, union, for holding the line against the cruel trend of depriving future workers of much needed benefits. Your courageous action will have its effects all over the country. Thank you, again! [Ohio supporter]

8:35 AM

you've got to pull this shit during the holidays, when it's 24 degrees out? you suck, the MTA sucks. you've had how long to hammer out a deal? way to ruin a city's holiday season, you selfish, greedy assholes.

8:37 AM

Hey,
I was very glad to hear the union in america were not dead.

I am not fully aware of the interest engaged in this battle. But I know that when workers decide to take the strike options, there is absolutly no other way to go forward on the negociation.

I whish good luck for all the striking workers, that risk their job fifgting for their rights and the rights of their fellow workers.

And to all the individualist, self fish and greedy people that cannot understand that the action of strike is essential to balance the power within a company, I wish a good and long way to work by foot or bicycle. Enjoy it.

Think about the environment when you do so:) you will feel a whole lot better.

julien, cannes, France.

PS when you think about how us workers are treated, you should be striking all year round

8:38 AM

Unions are bullshit and are so pointless. Rewarding people based on tenure instead of hard-work breeds the laziness that is so common in the typical union worker.

8:39 AM

i also live in ohio , work at a non-union company, and guess what? we have no say over anything that goes on
and the vice president of the company himself uses scare tactics to keep us from orginizing, i think we could learn alot form the workers

8:39 AM

Hey where are all the TWU picketing? On TV I just see max 10-15 people picketing

You lazy fucks, get back to work. You're breaking the law (and please dont give me that BS about women couldnt vote or slavery - you want to change the law, do it lawfully).

You lazy sick fucks, you signed up gto serve the PUBLIC.

8:41 AM

This is great!.. This may help America wake up! America/New York may actually deserve this strike, so people learn that the world is not anymore what they thought it is!

8:41 AM

I was hoping that you all would take the PR high road and "for the good of the city and the New Yorkers we serve selflessly each day...." postpone the strike until after the busy Holidays. But I suppose that you felt it was more likely to be effective at this time of the year. I am normally supportive of strikes and feel that most corporations have to be forced to do what is right for their workers but I think the timing of this action will work against you.

8:41 AM

Go back to work.

8:42 AM

You should all be ashamed of yourselvesfor being so incredibly greedy and selfish. A surplus has NOTHING to do with your wages at all. Your salary is already more than enough (cmon 45k to clean adn 55 to sit in the booth and be rude???), and a benefit package that is better than almost everyone in the country. As a designer of the new subway projects, why does the subway operator make more money than the designer? Its because your overpaid, and theses strongarm mafia tactics will come to end. Strike all month if you want, I hope they train another group of people that can actually appreciate a very good, well-paid job and fire all of you that strike. Now grow up!

8:42 AM

While I am all for everyone getting a fair deal this strike will help no one and I hope that Pataki takes a leaf out of President Reagan's book and like his handling of the air traffic controllers strike (who also thought they were invincible) replaces all of the lazy, impolite MTA employees who have put this city in finacial jeaopody. Unfortunately, Mr. Pataki enjoys significant dollar support from the TWU so, once again, the ordinary citizens will suffer whilst all of the 'players' in these strike negotiations work on their hidden agendas for notoriety.

8:42 AM

I support you guys! Thank you for taking a stand for the working families!

I don't know about you, but I don't want a 62 year old driving my train or bus!!!

8:43 AM

You should all be fired. Immediately. If you're unhappy with your pay/benefits, get another job! Maybe you should have thought about this before deciding on a career as a bus driver!!!!!

8:45 AM

Ha, do you know what I just realized?? All these negative comments against the strike are coming from one IP? It's one dude posting over and over again!! Wow, the shame...

8:46 AM

MAKE SO MUCH???

FOR ALL THE PEOPLE COMPLAINING ABOUT TRANSIT MAKES TOO MUCH, PLEASE INCLUDE YOUR SALARY OR HOURLY WAGE TO COMPARE.

Please include bonuses, stock options, car, and percentage of commission of sales you make.

That way, we can compare. You know how much they make, how much do you make?

8:46 AM

Up until today I was very supportive of your Union. worked hard. did a good job. I can't believe the poor judgement in calling this strike. I will support the longest jail time possible.Biggest fines possible.Zero tolerance.I don't care how long it takes

8:47 AM

YES STRIKE!!!

Have we been so well conditioned by the corporate and political power elite that we don't see who's really at fault here? Maybe, we're afraid that our posts will be traced and we'll be targeted as suspect of the "T" word.

When the greedy power companies allowed our great city to go dark, because of irresponibly managing the growing needs of our nation's power grid, no one got angry. No one said, "They sucked our utility payments for years, line their pocket lavishly and still we have power outages!" We all said (under the Governmedia's watchful mouth), "New Yorkers are strong and resilient and understanding. We can pull together and handle this." And we did.

Real NYC'ers know that if you can't stand up to The Man here, you can't do it anywhere. We set the example for the nation. New Yorkers tell smokers, sweatshop owners and the like that we will stand with those who oppose oppression and unfairness. That's not a statement of arrogance, but of fact. The world is watching New York. Will they again be disappointed to see that fat pockets trump the rights of the working masses? Are we going to let the corporate crooks, who spread wars, torture and abuse in the name of profits, spin more lies and buy into them because it's just easier?

Show your toughness, resolve and support for righteous indignation. Show the world that we are not all asleep or high on the drug of indifference. We are not all pacified by the Governmedia's constant pounding of "Tonight a man was killed..." followed by "Tom Cruise got his teeth cleaned..."

Maybe, the union should have put the face of a White Jewish lawyer at the front of their cause. Then see what Bloomberg and the wealthy New York elite would say. Yes it still exists in America and we all know it! Many of the MTA workers that we see are colored people. How easy it has become to look at them as the folks who serve us and only exist for our convenience. That was once the view primarily held by European Nobility and Southern planters. It is evident that those sentiments have not gone down with Dixie.

Let the trains and busses grind to a halt. Let the silence of the tunnels give way to voice from long ago. A time when the word Labor touched the hearts of Americans, instead of a another word for the work of someone beneath me. Perhaps the cold air will invigorate your revolutionary sensabilities.

Power to the People!!!

8:47 AM

Yeah baby, how do I get a job where I can cripple the city, break the law and sleep in my booth. Oh yeah and retire at 55 and get pay increases.

http://newyork.craigslist.org/mnh/rnr/118832386.html

Lazy sickos

8:48 AM

The TWU is acting shamefully. Public support is eroding rapidly...

8:48 AM

jail time for standing up for your rights? are you american?

8:48 AM

Indeed there are two New Yorks: the one of those who deal with the complications of the free-market system, and the other which must rely on thugs like Toussaint to extort from the MTA [and hence, the taxpayers] benefits that are often elusive to many in the private sector.

NOTA BENE: Many in the private sector do NOT get paid overtime, and most do not have the LUXURY of retiring at age 55. There can often be other benefits, of course, but the TWU should be more realistic about this issue. At a certain point, fighting on behalf of the employees begins to harm those same employees.

By the way, does anyone actually know Mr. Toussaint's salary?

8:49 AM

Listen. Someone mentioned a couple of posts ago, that there were 2 rate hikes, and now there's a mysterious 1 billion dollar surplus. Where's the mystery? Talking about raises as if the workers were somehow responsible for this new profitability? People get raises because they directly impact new profitability or because they get promoted. Generally, annual raises are pinned to inflation...not 6%. Secondly, comparing the $100,000 a day to pay for the workers' raises vs. the $400,000,000/day lost by the city is ridiculous. They are totally independant from eachother. Perhaps the city didn't think the Union would be so rash and irresponsible to walk out. Plus, have you ever noticed that when an entity earns a profit, it sometimes saves money for emergencies instead of immediately spending it?
P.S. Getting full pensions at 55 is the best I've ever heard outside of a "protect and serve" job. And (gasp!) paying a few percent per year towards your retirement?!? My God!!! That sounds almost...Normal!

8:49 AM

We pick on the TWU now, but whats next? Sanitation makes too much? then maybe teamsters make too much? Then Carpentars, then electricians?

Hell lets disband unions all together!! The only people who deserve to make enough money to feed thier families or send thier kids to college one day are people with college degrees. (sarcasm)

8:50 AM

Hard situtation.

Way too much vitriol in these comments.

I have no sympathy for the MTA -- a foolish bunch of cronies, who make bad deals and can't seem to manage cash flow -- I just can't believe how they swing from crying deficit and raising fares and then getting a surplus and wasting it on giving discounts rather than using it to make capital improvements (busted elevator, anyone?).

The union should give up on fighting for retirement at 55. That just does not fly in 2005.

Everyone - employers and employees ) are getting pushed to the all by the cost of health benefits - concessions by the union are reasonable here.

in exchange for those, the union should stick to its guns on higher wages, and should play up the fact that they took 0% raise in the first year of their last two contracts.

also -- stop talking about the $1B surplus this year. It just makes you look short-sighted. Issues like retirement and health care costs are long-term costs for the MTA.

8:52 AM

To all of you who do not support YOUR fellow workers, how could you be so cruel? If you were striking for better pay and health benefits, would you want hateful comments such as you have left spat at you?? Stop blaming the noble workers (we who work for our money are ALL noble) and cast your frustration and resentment on the billionaire bosses of the MTA. You and the transit workers make a drop in the bucket compared to these fat cats. YOU, WE!, all deserve better! WE deserve JUSTICE!

8:52 AM

I hope this strike lasts for weeks. The union will blow any support that it has and will bankrupt itself by having to pay fines. It's incredible that a group with an average salary of 62K (including overtime) that doesn't pay for healthcare coverage, has the nerve to pull this type of stunt. How many college educated folks make 62,000 a year? And every bleedin one of them has to contribute to the cost of healthcare ($100/month and more). each and everyone is also considered an "at-will" employee, meaning that they can be fired at any time, without cause. You fools can't even be fired FOR CAUSE. Assuming they don't get fired, its highly unlikely that they will get to retire at 55, with a pension.

Please consider your position. You will likely not get shot in the chest on the average day. If you do, I would bet the farm, communist labor camp, or whatever, that you wouldn't run after your assailant to try to stop them. You also don't carry 50 lbs of equipment into a burning trade center when you know full well that it will probably be your last act. Be thankful for what you have, accept the cost of living raises and work with the MTA to improve your lot in life.

8:56 AM

go striker go!

it is time today to show to all your fellow american citizen that strike is a way to gain dignity at work, to gain social treatment paid on the benefits you produce and to gain respect from the international community.

It is true that the users of the mta can be upset, but they know very well the reasons of your action. the way they criticize your strike is just the expression of their despair to not be able to do the same.

what they don't know is that they can do it all the same. go to the boss office and ask for a fair rise of salary, and if the greedy boss refuse, you may as well go on strike.

mass transit workers you know what you want, you are organised, get it!

and then use your organisation to help other workers to do the same.

jb
sssalc@hotmail.com

8:57 AM

I love it when these guys use this argument:

This isn't just a strike for New York's transit workers, it's a strike for all of us. We suffer nationwide from an erosion of the benefits that our parents and our grandparents took for granted.

My answer to that is simply: STFU!!

When you greedy bastards get back to work, I still have to pay into my healthcare, my pension and retire art 65!

You're not doing it for US, your doing it for YOURSELVES. Stop trying to bullshit me and get back to work

8:57 AM

- Most people will make it in to work so medical treatment will still be available. Because of the 4 person in a vehicle rule, traffic will be the same below 96th st. in Manhattan.

- When you make a ton of money for your boss, you never ask the boss for a little bit of the action? if you bring in the million dollar contract, you get -- nothing?

- I believe other unions have gone on strike - teachers, police, longshoremens, sanitation.
- Unfortunately, fellow New Yorkers are being hurt by the strike but the owners of the companies make $3 - $5 for every $1 the employee makes, so I believe the bosses are screaming right now.

- This is about class warfare.

8:58 AM

You people have a lot of nerve asking for an 8% pay increase each year for the next 3 years. The union is going to come out of this with a bad reputation and a big chunk of it's bank account gone. Most workers don't even get 3-4% increases in one year and you guys are demanding 8%. That takes a lot of nerve.

8:58 AM

Solidarity Forever!

we stand united with our union brothers and sisters.

to hell with bloomberg and the media who have tried to turn worker against worker. let this show the rest of us the workers are the ones who have the power, if we all unite the entire world could stop

Justice for the TWU!

8:58 AM

I SUPPORT YOU! where can i join the picket line and help out?!

8:59 AM

TWU - I take the trains and buses everyday. I know how hard you guys work and I appreciate it. The venom being spewed on this blog indicates how much people really count on you. I only wish they'd read a bit more before spouting off.

What these people seem to be losing sight of:

-The MTA surplus
-The fare hikes
-Laying booth clerks off and having the rest stand outside, making it inconvenient for customers that need info (you have to find the clerk first)
-The incredible raises that the senior MTA executives gave themselves last year

The corruption is at the top of the organization. The people that are striking are NOT GETTING PAID today. That hurts them and their families. They're putting themselves in financial jeopardy, yet they're still choosing to do it. That shows you how bad the problem is and how badly they want to fix it.

For the brave people shooting off their ignorant mouths with "get back to work", etc.: it's ironic that you infer that TWU is comprised of lazy, uneducated individuals when it's beyond clear that you yourselves have absolutely zero idea what you're talking about. You also have zero humility in recognizing how fortunate you are.

The TWU made a tough decision. Believe it or not, they didn't want to have to do this. You're too busy wallowing in your self-proclaimed superiority to recognize the bind they're in.

Good luck, TWU! We're with you!

The sad part is, when all this is done, the MTA will throw out another fare hike and spin it so that they blame the union...

...and too many people will accept that at face value :(

8:59 AM

It must be nice to work at a job where you can act like a big baby and leave when you want. You union guys are unbelieveable. I hope the MTA replaces you guys like Northwest did with the AMFA nuts.

You guys better get what you deserve....a kick in the ass!

8:59 AM

This strike is just frustrating and hurting the poor of New York... I understand the TWU's desire to strike and earn fair wages, and protect the future employee's of their union. However crippling the cities public transit and leaving people stuck is awful.
It really only hurts those who are dependant on public transportation... ie) can't afford to take a cab etc. IT hurts honest hardworking new yorkers who are barely making it by.

If you want to stick it to the MTA, refuse to charge fare. Open the turnstiles, open the gates. Teach civilians how to drive the trains. Invite them for a tour of the train station. Show them the squalid conditions you work in, develop ties with the community, help new yorkers out during the holiday by making transit free, and stick it to the MTA by not collecting fares.

The TWU backed out of negotiations. The TWU refused arbitration, TWU decided to strike ilegally. When there were viable alternative to striking that would only affect the MTA.

9:00 AM

I'm shocked to see all the anger directed at the transit workers here. Union actions are the only power working people have, and New Yorkers should be directing their frustration at the MTA, encouringing it to settle with the workers by offering a fair contract.

9:01 AM

Hey, just because no one else decided to fight for retirement at 55 doesn't mean that at age 60 people should be working. Look at your parents. Remember how fragile they were at 60.

Then think about your 62 year old parents working a blue-collar job 9-5.

I'd like to see what these MTA people had thier parents do when they were 62.

9:01 AM

i am a strong believer in unions. however, when a union abuses its power, it gives ammunition to those who would like to see unions abolished forever.

in this day and age, a 24 percent wage increase over three years - eight percent per year - is absurd. many new yorkers would be thrilled to get an eight percent increase over three years, never mind per year.

you average about $50,000 per year in salary - more than a lot of new yorkers. you get to retire a lot earlier than most other people. your benefits are incredible - i wish i had health benefits that i didn't have to pay for.

unions are a good thing. greedy unions are a bad thing, as they will ultimately spell the end of unions...shame on you, TWU LOCAL 100.

9:02 AM

Hey,

will the TWU pay for lost sales in the holiday season for those stores (mom and pop stored relying on Christmas shoppers)?

Yeah, you know we New Yorkers will stick it out and you can strike as much as you want, but when you get back to work I will have NO RESPECT for you.

Assholes

9:04 AM

I hope they fire each striking worker - I wish they would imprison the leaders of the T.W.U. Local 100 - I would like to tar and feather every selfish ignorant striker and walk them down the Canyon of Heros with a ticker tape parade of spit and feces

9:05 AM

Sure the TWU is breaking the law. If our esteemed president can break the law just when he thinks he's doing something "right" (wiretapping,etc etc etc), why shouldn't they just use his example?

9:05 AM

next time i see a transit worker doing absolutely nothing, or sleeping, i'm kicking him or her in the face. you whining crybabies deserve it too. you people barely do good enough of a job to deserve keeping your job, let alone an 8% raise.

9:07 AM

The average foot soldier in Irag makes $18,752 p/year, doesn't have weekends or holidays off , spends the night sleeping in a ditch, eating out of a can...doesn't have a mandatory 15 coffee break every 4 hours...isn't paid for overtime..will be lucky if they see the ripe old age of 55.

9:08 AM

To the MBA in economics who wrote this...

"For those who feel "outraged" at the salaries of the union workers:

If union salaries drop to non-union level, then non-union salaries will fall to Taiwan, China and Bangladesh levels -- at New York City cost of living!"

The TWU perfoms a service. By definition subway drving can't be outsourced, therefore the level of transit worker salaries is not terribly relevant to the overall wage level.

The MTA may not be the greatest organization on the planet (I'm still working on how the last surplus evaporated so quickly), but the TWU has overstepped.

9:09 AM

Everyone who's supporting the TWU on this site, seems as if they're not reading any other posts, but just repeating propaganda spewed by every union leader accross the country. I happen to agree with most of the others, and no; I'm not just believing crap thrown at me by Bloomberg or the media, I'm an economics/resource economics major. Also for the person who mentioned that average housing is "$500,000 even in the ghetto", you're being mislead. You should look at MEDIAN housing by neighborhood. It's high, but $500,000 is the silliest thing I've ever heard.

9:09 AM

I am disabled with Kidney failure, and need to get to my doctors office on 96th street for a life sustaining injection, due to your selfish "strike" you have now put my health at risk. IN NO UNCERTAIN TERMS I WILL SUE YOU IF I SUFFER AS A RESULT.

It is sickening that TWU workers who admittedly on tv make $48K a year think they are 'suffering' while a dying disabled person such as myself my live on less than $9,000 a year.

9:10 AM

Go Strikers! More unions should be doing as you folks are. The Taylor laws are unfair and the city takes advantage of Taylor laws. So many workers are not given fair contracts on time; think of the teachers union, again currently without a new contract. Many other unions have had to wait years for new contracts, while the public lives off the dime of public workers who can least afford it. Work conditions in so many public sector jobs, as in private sector jobs, are deteriorating – more responsibilities, more hours, less health care, fewer pension provisions, and a push to have people working till old age. Often the new contracts barely cover the general cost of living increases that workers are facing. Workers are so financially strapped that the ideas of facing fine penalties, due to the Taylor law, make it a very difficult decision to choose to strike. Just because the Taylor laws exist doesn’t mean workers should have to agree to them. The Taylor laws are another fear-tactic that government uses to control us. Yes, it is a big shame that it is the average person that gets hurt by strikes, as the wealthy class often goes untouched. Yet, the average person should show solidarity with the TWU workers, as we should all be fighting for the same things that the TWU is fighting for. This great nation is capable of doing better for all people; everyone deserves a fair share of the great American pie. Better than average working conditions for all are achievable! Imagine economic fairness!!

9:10 AM

The strike is good, they defend themselves.

They defend their working conditions.

They defend your mass transit system (because i would not feel safe having a bus driver aged 62 and worrying it's right leg not functionning well.

and I can remark that all the aggressive comments on this blog are coming from intolerant, greedy, individualist and silly people that not only lose their time insulting strking workers, but also irritate the readers of this blog with bad words.

the words you use to describe your fellow human can be charge against you before god's trial!!

j

9:12 AM

Stupid transit workers. Hope you have a merry christmas. If mobs don't rise up and burn down your houses. :)

9:13 AM

While you people are busy yelling at the TWU, try to remember how MTA Chairman Pete Kalikow gave MTA Executive Director Katherine Lapp a ***22 PERCENT PAY RAISE*** last year.

What the hell has she done to earn that raise? These guys wanted 9% over three years! Get a grip, you arrogant class elitists. Boo-hoo, you were inconvenienced. These guys are fighting for what should be rightfully theirs.

9:13 AM

Here up in Orange county we pay 1/4% sales tax daily to the MTA & there's no MTA services up here!! Taxation w/o representation's what those theives are doing!

9:13 AM

It seems to me these negative posters just want everyone to be paid crappy. Let's face it Firefighters, teachers, and police officers should be paid MORE but that does not mean that these workers should be paid LESS.

(BTW the health care the TWU is offered is HIP & GHI) No I'm not a transit worker but here I am on the TWU website It's not that hard to look up. HIP is the same HMO Medicaid uses in New York City, so It's not like thier getting a real nice health plan. Maybe if they had the option for a PPO plan then paying money for it like everyone else would be okay.

9:14 AM

TO ALL THE STRIKING EMPLOYEES AND GREEDY UNION GUYS... GO TO HELL!!! Thanks a lot for taking advantage of us New Yorkers and being greedy!

9:15 AM

Americans deserve the BEST in healthcare, pensions, and work conditions. It is a shame that people are willing to drop down there standards to those of 3rd world countries instead of fighting for the best for themselves and their children. It is easy to be poor the world over, it takes social responsibility to maintain a healthy middle class. Go NY transit workers, show the world, that there are still Americans that have not forgotten the American Dream!

9:15 AM

yeah because lawsuits solve alot
dumbass

9:16 AM

Why is it that American Unions are so fuckin greedy? I think it is because they don't get enough from their spouses!!!

9:16 AM

You people are disgusting, degenerate lowlifes. You think you are disrespected now? I'd like to spit in your face. You are crushing the mobility of MILLIONS of people, and causing nothing but devastation and hardship only DAYS before the Christmas Holiday. You think we all are going to feel that it is just convenient? If you have to strike, then sure - it's your right; go ahead and strike. BUT you chose to do it days before Christmas and that's one of the most ugliest acts of cowardice I have EVER witnessed. I think you should all be fired and sued. Cause after this, the people of New York shouldn't even have to look at your faces. So as you gather around your trees this Christmas with your families, I want you to take a moment to stop and think of the many families whose holiday you have ruined with this despicable, selfish act. I'm sure God would be very proud of you. [read=sarcasm]

9:16 AM

Do you know that I am not able to visit my mother who is dying because you lazy assholes have to make a point? Retire at 52? Why don't you guys keep dreaming! Hope you all get fired!

9:17 AM

also for the person who mentioned that average housing is "$500,000 even in the ghetto",

Go look up real-estate and see for yourself. 1br Condos go for $300,000 in Bushwhick and Bed-Stuy!!

9:19 AM

god forgives your stupidity

9:19 AM

How much schooling is required to drive a bus? Did you even graduate high school?

9:20 AM

I believe it's outstandin when the workers show the corporations that the workers are the most important piece of the puzzle. I do not understand why the people of New York side against the workers when the city itself knew damn well this would happen if they refused to compensate. IT IS NOT THE UNION'S FAULT. They stated what they would do if the city didn't meet them eye-to-eye. The City fell through, letting it's people down. Side with your fellow co-workers and help them state that they will not be the corporation's pawns!

9:21 AM

TWU is doing what no other union in this city has done so far. That is, act like a union! Those on this blog who would belittle this strike or the reason for going on strike are dumb, blind and ignorant to the fact that the brothers and sisters of TWU Local 100 are fighting for you and your children. How can anyone dare to call any of these hard working, decent, law-abiding citizens greedy when we hear about obscene corporate profits and bonuses that are being balanced on the backs of millions of hardworking Americans.

Shame on anyone that does't support TWU and let's all make sure that we throw out Bush, Bloomberg and Pataki as soon as we can.

9:22 AM

To all the people that do not understand the reason of a strike, I shall refer to your own life.

when something does not go right, you try to change it.

for the workers it is the same. they see something is wrong and try to change it. only in the entrepreneurial system, they have to ask the boss or the board of governer to change things.

this time, the mta did not accept to change things even if the worker believe it is important for them to have this change. well if there is no other way (and I can tell you before a worker risk his job over a strike, that means there is no other choice), the strike is decreted.

then it is just a power thing, will the worker will be strong enough to gain what they are asking, or will the white collar, gain they fight?

I would rather see the strikers gainning what they demand

j

9:22 AM

Yes, I am a Local 100 member, and this is a proud day for me. Stand up to the governing bodies, stand up to corporate America. We must tell them we will not tolerate the working class being pushed deeper and deeper into this hole that they've created for us.

If we fold and take the slap in the face which we've been handed, what do you think they'll try to hand the cops, firefighters and teachers next time their contract rolls around? What about non-union workers? Our children will someday be forced to retire at 78 years old while paying for 100% of their healthcare. The rich will, of course still get richer. Fat rats like Bloomberg and Kalickow have their children's futures taken care of, as well as their grandchildren's.

As far as all of you whining about the miserable Christmas you will have-BIG F***ING DEAL!!! I have not seen my family for Christmas or Thanksgiving for the better part of TEN YEARS!!!

YOU GOTTA FIGHT FOR YOUR RIGHT TO FIGHT!!!
LONG LIVE THE TWU
UNITED INVINCIBLE!!!

9:22 AM

I hope those lazy bastards don't get a dime. If they are so productive then why don't they take their sets of skills and work elsewhere? Answer: they are not skilled (so if they left their coddled union job they could expect a substantial decline in wage wherever they found work) and are only paid the amount they are as a result of their ability to band together to negotiate their wages. When corporations act as monopolists we all cry foul; when unions do the same-take advantage of their market power and the rest of us be damned-they are supported. I keep hearing the word 'respect' from the union; respect is what they want, respect is what the MTA won't give, respect is what this is about. If you want respect then find the cure for cancer or become a human rights lawyer. Do not drive a bus or a train. I say this to the kids reading this because a generation or two ago when today's transit workers were young and deciding what to do with their lives, they thought, implicitly, that by becoming a transit worker they could have substantial job security, a rate of pay that is not related to their actual contributions in terms of productivity, as well as respect. Shockingly, this last is in short supply. I guess this kind of thing is hard to predict. And you clowns keep going on about working people. Working people are being fucked all over the tri-state area for the sake of a very tiny number of strikers, and of course most of these people do not make an inflated wage thanks to their ability to withhold the provision of essential services that something like 7 million people rely on everyday. The daily economic cost is estimated to be around $400 million; think of what could be done with that money. All so a tiny few can avoid doing the kinds of things that the overwhelming majority of people take for granted as their responsibility, and rightly, eg pay a portion of their healthcare costs. And you people romanticizing this whole thing by speaking of workers rising up and oppressive governments and revolutions and all that have absolutely no perspective. It is normal in some parts of Africa for babies to die of diarrhea for want of a twenty cent tablet made of sugar and water. All over the Middle East people have been disappearing for decades. We live in the richest society on earth and things in our economy hum along so well that people with nearly no skills and no talent can reasonably expect to be filthy rich by any historical standard. $55,000 a year is not enough? Given sufficiently poor decision-making ability, I suppose no amount is enough. Some of you should consider reading more, or reading. And fuck MTA management too.

9:22 AM

Unrealistic demands

Egotistical leadership

Selfish timing

This will backfire. I look forward to the trains being automated.

9:23 AM

selfishly, you have only thought of yourselves and forgot about nyc (the elderly, parents with young children, handicapped, etc) because you believe the mta have only thought of themselves and forgot about you. sound like apples and oranges? it is dumbasses. as for respect, none will be given. contempt , get ready for it.

9:24 AM

THE TAIL IS STILL WAGING THE DOG!!

So many on here have expressed anger saying that we all have to pay for healthcare (really sickcare). The workers should just suck it up like the rest of us, stop whining and return to work. These are the folks who definitely don't get it!

Instead of making our elected official accountable for creating a real healthcare system that serves Americans, you say we should all have it just as bad. Instead of demanding corporate and governmental transparency, we scrutinize and criticize those on the lowest end of this equation. If you want my labor, I should at least have a say in how much you pay for it. Period.

During recent history, our parents and grandparents owned kidnapped Africans and treated them much worse than the animal whose rights we will now die for. Anyone who acted on his or her impulses to be free were dismembered. If they kept trying to break free, they were lynched as an example to the others. There were always other slaves handy to trumpet, "At least we is gittin' vittles and a shack. Sho' we is beat and raped sumtime, but we's is gittin' hand-down clothes from Mas'sa! Fo'git all dat freedom stuff."

Now, as a wise poet once said, "All of the cotton fields have turned to concrete" and I might add that the color of slavery in no longer black, but green$$$

9:24 AM

We can all keep saying everyone in this country needs to be paid more... But this strike has no effect on the MTA or the wealthy in New York.

It hurts the poor!

Why not operate the trains and busses gratis instead of taking the risks of a strike?

Why is the TWU inconveniencing the public of New York, when they're negotiating with the MTA.

I'm no fan of the MTA I'm having trouble paying for monthly card these days. I'm curious why they were broke, then a billion dollar surplus appeared.

But I don't know what I did to the TWU.

While Unions are great for protecting the working class. If a union is only watching out for it own workers and forgetting about the rest of the working class its just greed.

There has bound to have been an alternative that would have been less abrasive to the rest of the workers in new york who depend on public transportation, and still had an impact on the MTA.

9:24 AM

All the best,transit workers. An injury to one worker is an injury to all workers, and a victory for one worker is a victory for all workers.

John Daly; shop steward, British Columbia Government and Service Workers Union, Vancouver, British Columbia

9:25 AM

This strike is NOT an "inconvenience" as some here say, it is putting peoples lives in jeopardy - their health and financially - that's a tad more than "inconvenient" and as far as fighting for workers rights and that this fight is for New Yorkers and not just the TWU blah blah blah BULLSHIT. If your job is so awful (people spitting and urinating near you, reprimands for not following the dress code etc.) then do what other people do, QUIT AND GET ANOTHER JOB! Good luck finding another job with the pay and benefits (not to mention minimal required skill level) that you have now. Can't find it in NY? THEN LEAVE! Don't let the door hit you on the way out.

9:25 AM

the poor people are backing mta strikers, they know exaclty where every bodies interest is.

and it is certainly not in the pocket of the few insulting the MTA workers.

9:29 AM

STAND STRONG! (and don't listen to these fools) I'm living in the city with the balls of STEEL! I'm so proud of you guys. My parents are teachers, I grew up with hard working union folks and understand that striking is a last resort that is only chosen to stop the inequity and support the workers' families. I'd bring you coffee but there are no strike zones near me.

Don't listen to the angry folks here who don't understand what you're going through -- that you work hard and deserve a living wage (someone was mad that you make $50K in NYC! Something tells me that guy hasn't done a hard days work for that and tried to buy a home for their family in this city ever), you deserve your pensions, you deserve health care (like everyone does).

I THANK YOU FOR STANDING UP FOR ALL OF THE HARD WORKING PEOPLE ALL OVER THE CITY AND THE COUNTRY. The corporate management has long thought they could do whatever they want to the people who work hard so that they can be well paid.

STAND STRONG ... millions of us are WITH YOU!

--a supporter on the UWS/Harlem

9:29 AM

How awful, the TWU is standing up for fair pay & benefits?! How many of you bitched when your yearly raises started getting smaller & smaller and you had to start paying more for healthcare while your bosses got richer & richer?

How awful for this union to fight for their members?! It would be much better for the TWU to lie down & let the MTA stick it to them as much as possible because they are backed by law & politics.

A strike is not supposed to be easy on anyone, but sometimes necessary. I think you all should focus your frustration on the MTA, the Governor, and the Mayor for not taking the TWU strike threat serious. If they had, maybe they would have seriously entertained negotiations.


You think you are inconvienced by this? How about the striking workers who are not being paid while they're out and face stiff fines because the public isn't smart enough to recognize the important of a Union and abolish the Taylor law?



I WISH ALL OF TWU LOCAL 100 STRENGTH AND COURAGE AS THEY FIGHT FOR WHAT THEY DESERVE!!!!!!

9:30 AM

Good link on automatic subways. I hope they take the Taylor law fines and invest in R&D in this area.

http://www.systra.com/technologies/agt.htm

9:30 AM

I WISH ALL OF TWU LOCAL 100 STRENGTH AND COURAGE AS THEY FIGHT FOR WHAT THEY DESERVE!!!!!!

AMEN!! fuck the grandmother who needs to get to dialysis... the sick kid who needs to get to the doctor!!!

As long as we get what we want!!!
GO TWU!!!!! SOLIDARITY!!!!

9:31 AM

If I was the mayor or head of MTA, I'd fire every single union member. Then, I'd go to rural areas in the south where unemployment is over 10%. I'd have no trouble hiring people for half of what you are making now. Instead of an "I don't give a fuck" attitude we currently see from transit workers, we'd get a "howdy ya'll" with a smile and a handshake. These new hires could do twice the work in half the time for half the pay, all with a smile on their faces.

Union workers: stop being so greedy, or you will be replaced. There are literally millions of people that would take your crappy, high paid jobs. Maybe the mayor will take a couple of cruise ships to Mexico or Puerto Rico and haul back 20,000 employees. Ya'll better get your resumes out and start looking for a new job!

9:32 AM

the MTA workers can show the way to all american workers that are not satisfied with their wages, working conditions, social services.

it is the time to wake up and to shake all the people that takes advantage of the workers in the country.

j for a general strike day. all workers untited

9:32 AM

I HAVE TO TAKE MY FINALS IN JANURARY NOW AND RUN THE RISK OF NOT GRADUATING ON TIME.
I SUPPORT THE TRANSIT WORKERS.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR POSSIBLE RUINING MY ABILITY TO GRADUATE ON TIME. THE POLICE SHOULD GO ON STRIKE TO. MAYBE ROGER TOUSSAINT WOULD THINK THE WHOLE CITY GOING INTO CHAOS IS GOOD TOO.

9:33 AM

You know, the comments such as "this is such an inconvenience to me" and "how dare you" really make me shake my head in disgust.

What is happening here should be so obvious that even the dumbest New Yorkers among you can understand it.

You are asking people, yes- actual people, to 1) not stand by what they believe to be right, 2) bow to the government and accept what is unfair and 3) work in conditions that are a) unsafe b) unclean and c) humiliating and to smile and eat shit while they do it!

Regardless if they are "Blue Collar" or not- I would bet that a significant number of these people are college educated. I would also bet that they are also feeling the crippling effects that this strike has on not only themselves, but from their family and friends as well.

The Union Workers are well within their right to strike- what right does the State of NY have to make a civil freedom such as striking illegal? Because it might cause people to get home later than normal? Cry me a river and build a bridge to get over it already. You people work in NY - if you didn't read the news to see that this strike was imminent and make other arrangements, then SHAME on you.

NY is full of the selfish, loathesome type of American that the rest of the country loves to hate. To those of you who don't fit into this category, I apologize. But, stop thinking about "me me me me me" and think about someone else for a change!

To the woman who has to bring her child to daycare by walking? Welcome to the rest of the world! Do you think other cities have the extensive system that you people do? No, we don't- but you know what?? We manage. You are going to lose a day's pay? Then you know what else? Don't bring your kid to daycare if you aren't going to work! What- you want daycare to raise your child? If you aren't going to work, keep the baby with you and have some quality time... take a walk in 20 degree weather- I'm sure that if there is even a tiny touch of snow- the child would love to play in it!

New Yorkers need to get over it and move on, and stop the incessant whining!

To the Strikers- you all must continue to do what is right- you have the full backing of a LOT of people and Unions are necessary to protect worker rights. Keep the faith, stay strong and remember that you ARE doing the right thing!

9:33 AM

Bloomberg is a fascist.

The NYC transit workers have a right to strike in the presence of suffering health benefits, unfair pension policy, and decreasing wages. Keep fighting.

9:33 AM

This is worth reposting:

A few points for union members to bring back to their leadership before this is taken down:

- Public support for the unions will drop like a rock as everyone sees what they make and the raises proposed.

-There will be actual casualties as a result of the unions called strike from: unavailable medical treatment, weather, etc)

- I see the union thinks that a surplus entitles them to higher than market average raises? As opposed to the taxpayers and fare payers who paid for them?

- The long term loss of public support for the union will not be forgotten by New Yorkers who will live through this.

- You have only hurt your fellow New Yorkers with this strike, mostly in our pockets. Do not expect any sympathy when you can not pay your fines.

9:33 AM

AMEN!! fuck the grandmother who needs to get to dialysis... the sick kid who needs to get to the doctor!!!

That's what I'm sayin brudda, like I mean why can't we get any money. I can barely afford my sons private school tuitun and Xbox thee sixty as it is. What's next, I have to selll my house in the hamptons just to get by? We need at leat 15% raise to get buy. Thing s are expensive now, I mean we have to tkae the cabs and pay $30 every trip just like you non-union membrs do too now since we can't no ride the subway. Have some compassion for us, jeez.

9:35 AM

To all the card carrying union members howling about how this strike is a fight for the worker over the corporation, this is class warfare, let's make Marx proud (Karl, not Harpo), etc... Lets do the math.

The average salary in the US is about $36K. "NYC is expensive," you whine. I agree. The cost of living index is around 130, meaning it's about 30% more expensive than the US average. Increasing the average US salary by 30% means that the NYC equivalent salary is around $46,800.

Tell me again how your fighting for a decent wage and a little respect? Your average member makes 32% ($62,000) more than the NY adjusted national average. Sounds pretty decent to me.

9:36 AM

"The NYC transit workers have a right to strike in the presence of suffering health benefits, unfair pension policy, and decreasing wages. Keep fighting."

You may want to check NY state law before you talk about "rights" like that.

9:38 AM

This communist worker rhetoric isn't really applicable.

Yes a union should watch out for its own workers...

But in the process think of its community as a whole.

There is a line of thinking that goes along the lines of...


option A is best for me, at a cost to others.

option B is advantageous for me and most people in my community.

greed chooses option A usually....

I personally think decent people choose option B.

Striking is a great tactic for the TWU, but in the end only benefits the TWU. It doesn't take into account the community at large.

What lasting effect will this strike have to assist other members of the working class....

How bout the people in this city who make just enough money not to qualify for any sort of medical assistance, and can't afford insurance, rent, taxi's etc.

Its not a simple inconvenience. Its an outright attack on the hardworking people of new york who fund the MTA.

If you want to see reform... work with people instead of screwing.

9:38 AM

Out of 33,700 workers ONLY 6000 voted whether to have a strike or not, with the majority of ONLY those 6000 voting yes. TWU did not hold any other vote except for the one on 12/10 at the Javitz center. ONLY those workers present at the rally on 12/10 had their voices heard - the rest, who wanted to avoid a strike, couldn't be there because they were working.

The workers also have not been given a chance to decide if they want to accept the offers MTA has made. The decision for this is being made SOLEY BY TWU.

Is the union really doing all of this "for the unborn" or are they doing this because of the division which presently exists within the union itself?

TWU's decision to strike is putting the transit workers in a bad position. Mr. Toussant, you want respect for your workers? You should start with your union!!

9:38 AM

Why dont you people get your facts right.A bus operater makes 47000 a year base pay and pays 1500 to his pension and has to have 25 years of service and age 55 to retire .polic ,fire, make 57,000 sanitation pick up garbage and can retire after 20 year at any age so do police and fire.plus they also get 6200 a year longevety pay a year for a total of 63000.and it comes from your TAXES.SO GET IT RIGHT.

9:39 AM

I am a senior manager at MTA that is watching the news and i am so chocked imagining i could be blocked by the strike.

Hopefully, I do have my brand new mercedes paid by the generous contribution of the NY mass transit users.

There is no way we acces to the demand of the strikers, we wil put them into jail and we will share ebenfits among the direction managers, just like we did last year, and the one before, and the one before....

9:39 AM

It's true that the transit strike will inconvenience many New Yorkers - this is the *reason* that Transit workers were forced to resort to this measure. Through which other means would they have affected, or even reached, the self involved masses of our city? Elsewhere on this forum, someone commented about Transit workers' base pay versus that of firemen, policemen, and teachers - who are also all union members. Fight the ability of the Transit Union to strike to protest unfair contracts and you fight the legality of those same teachers and firemen to do the same. Support labor - don't be divisionist. Additionally, Bloomberg has a political machine to spin this the way that he likes, the same is not true of the men and women in Local 100 - I urge you to think this issue through before buying into the hype that comes from the Mayor's office. As far as the workers in Local 100 go - know that you have supporters out there. See this through.

9:40 AM

It's unfortunate that the well paid GREEDY UNION WORKERS don't understand that the MTA has massive debt it needs to pay off as well as projects such as the 2nd ave. line they need to spend the money on. I guess they aren't paid enough to understand such things. They just want MORE. And god forbid they pay a tiny portion for their medical care. Welcome to earth--do you have any idea how much I pay for my medical insurance? Do you have any idea how much I pay to visit a doctor? The GREED OF THE UNION MAKES ME SICK!

9:43 AM

I'd like to see you guys drive a buss or train like we do. It is damn hard work and taek a lott of skil. We all mostly collage educated. I mean drive buss or train for only $62000/yr - is nothing! We need more money, better benefits! Who can work to 62 year old? That is unreasonable.

9:44 AM

YES WE ARE ON STRIKE BUT NOT JUST FOR US ALONE.WE STRIKE FOR EVERY MUNICIPAL UNION IN THIS CITY .WHAT WOULD IT BE LIKE IF THE PD,FD SANITATION AND TEACHERS WORKED OFF THEIR JOBS AND WENT ON STRIKE?
WE ARE STRIKING NOT ONLY FOR OURSELVES BUT FOR EVERY WORKER THAT HAS AN UNJUST WORK ENVIROMENT.
STAND UNITED!

9:45 AM

For the man who spoke of Roger Toussaint coming from Haiti and only a Haitian will do something like this. What does nationality have to do with it? He delayed the strike before shouldn't that be a warning.The person who said that is not only ignorant. More than 25 years ago when they went on strike there was no Roger Toussaint.
I believe he really didn't want to strike. This is what they get for procrastinating. Why wait last minute next to the deadline to make an agreement?
Pataki said to be hey well many other occupations decided on a deal after their contract expired. Is this suppose to be good? No, this is actually an insult to you as a leader that you have to come to an agreement in the result of procrastinating.
These drivers do need it because not risking lives such as police officers and firefighthers. However, they have direct contact with passengers. Just the other night, I saw a bus driver get hit because he refuse a passenger who didn't have the money believing it would be unfair to others who paid.
ALL I HAVE TO SAY GOOD LUCK TO TWU and HOPE YOU GUYS ARE GETTING WHAT YOU ARE FIGHTING FOR!!!

9:45 AM

Ben @ 920: Next time secure your website before talking shit about the education level of transit workers on a busy blog like this.

9:45 AM

Good luck!
Concession bargaining hurts EVERYONE. Look at what happened to the UAW when Chrysler forced them to give up wages.
You all are pissed about the strike, here's something you can do, get off your ass and call the MTA, and tell them to stop trying to screw their workers and offer a decent friggin contract!
in Solidarity,
Sam

9:46 AM

I am a 112 years old lady with a double heart transplant and asthma. You mutherfu****** striker are putting me at risk. I am used to take the bus to go to my doctor

And I cant' even cash my monthly exxon stakeholder share.

you bastard!

9:46 AM

All you NY'ers who are bashing the TWU Strike be/c you think they get paid enough and have good pensions...well that is because they have taken a stand against corporate greed. You peeps who are mad that you have to pay mucho for your medical and make only $10/hr is because you've failed to stand up to corporate greed in the past. The $$ TWU workers earn is a good living. Why aren't there more jobs like this in USA...be/c people have settled for whatever Corp. America has handed them. STAND UP FOR AMERICAN WORKERS, and the TWU. Support the strike and FAIR WAGES. The media keeps saying how much money these people make.....they're not rich, they're making a FAIR living doing hard work. There is crazy rules in a union be/c they have crazy bosses. FAIR WAGES NOW! Remember that saying about the Nazi's....first they came for XXXX and I did nothing, next they came for YYYY and I did nothing...then they came for me and no one was left. AMERICAN WORKERS DESERVE FAIR WAGES AND BENEFITS. Go TWU. I'm not a union member, nor a resident of NY/NJ.

9:46 AM

LOCAL 100 TRANSPORT WORKERS: YOU PEOPLE ARE GREAT. YOU DESERVE APPLAUSE & SUPPORT FOR THE BRAVE FIGHT YOU'RE ENGAGING IN IN SEEKING RESPECT & DIGNITY FOR YOUR DIFFICULT JOBS. THE ONUS FOR THIS SITUATION FALLS SQUARELY ONTO THE SHOULDERS OF PRINCE PATAKI & HIS SEEMING CHAMPAGNE-SIPPING MINIONS. I'D LIKE TO WISH PATAKI INTO THE SEAT OF A TRAIN CONDUCTOR & DO IT FOR 20YRS TO SEE THE PERSON HE COMES OUT AS. GREAT & GOOD LUCK TO YOU & MAY ALL NEW YORKERS BE PROUD OF THE FIGHT YOU'RE CARRYING FOR US ALL. PEACE. RF - A WORKING NEW YORKER

9:46 AM

You are vile, despicable,greedy people! You are better off than millions of New Yorkers, whose lives you are now ruining. I'm a Democrat, I'm pro-union, but I loathe what you're doing. This greedy whining is at the expense of poor, working-class people, many of whose holidays (at the very least) are now destroyed for some hypothetical future worker. Roger Toussaint, shame on you!. TWU Local 100, shame on you for listening to this ego-manical blowhard! You are greedy SOBs who are no better than the MTA fat-cats you constantly vilify. NO BETTER!! You are all criminals and I hope you get fired.

9:47 AM

To the one who posted this:

"To the guy who "can't afford to pay the MTA subway fare"....yeah, and how can you pay for online internet services? Moron"

Have you thought that maybe I'm using my roommate's internet connection and computer? BTW, you assumed that I'm a man, which I'm not. It seems that you think that women cannot be outspoken or are unable to express an opinion! You have anti-workers' sentiments and now you show disrespect for women! Why would anyone want to listen to what you want to say?

9:47 AM

LOCAL 100 TRANSPORT WORKERS: YOU PEOPLE ARE GREAT. YOU DESERVE APPLAUSE & SUPPORT FOR THE BRAVE FIGHT YOU'RE ENGAGING IN IN SEEKING RESPECT & DIGNITY FOR YOUR DIFFICULT JOBS. THE ONUS FOR THIS SITUATION FALLS SQUARELY ONTO THE SHOULDERS OF PRINCE PATAKI & HIS SEEMING CHAMPAGNE-SIPPING MINIONS. I'D LIKE TO WISH PATAKI INTO THE SEAT OF A TRAIN CONDUCTOR & DO IT FOR 20YRS TO SEE THE PERSON HE COMES OUT AS. GREAT & GOOD LUCK TO YOU & MAY ALL NEW YORKERS BE PROUD OF THE FIGHT YOU'RE CARRYING FOR US ALL. PEACE. RF - A WORKING NEW YORKER

9:47 AM

Congratulations to the TWU for confronting a repressive Taylor Law. That law should be tested and confronted. It seems totally unconstitutional not to be able to use labor's last resort-the strike-just because you are a public employee. All these workers,with their short sighted views, unionized or not, should see this strike as representing all American workers. It is a strike waged against corporate greed and their political allies who represent them as mouthpieces (Bloomberg, Kaliko, Pataki, as they line up to bash the workers).

9:47 AM

It's about time that someone stood up for workers rights .

Management has money for bonuses ,cars for managers and perks for the top people , but has no money to pay the people that make it happen .

Shame on the conductors and engineers that don't support the strike . One day they'll wish they had after management stabs them in the back. Management always does .

9:47 AM

ANOTHER THING THERE IS DEBT ITS A WAY FOR THEM TO DIG IN PEOPLE"S POCKETS. IF THERE WAS A DEBT WHY ARE WE RECEIVING THE HOLIDAY BONUS AND ON VOTING DAY ASKING US CITIZENS WHAT TO DO WITH THE MONEY!!!! GIVE ME A BREAK!!!

9:48 AM

Your actions clearly demonstrate that the only thing the Union is concerned with is power. Your socialist idealogy is repugnant and your selfish actions are morally reprehensible. I hope the courts punish every single member that went on strike. There is absolutely no justification for such blatant disregard for the welfare of the city of New York; your self-righteous attitude only demonstrates your illegitimacy.

I also hope that every striking worker gets fired and can never find another job again. I would NEVER hire such a selfish and arrogant worker to work for me. Overall, this merely demonstrates that Unions are nothing more than greedy selfish people who want to destroy the American economy. You are a pathetic lot.

9:48 AM

I hope all of you TWU bastards lose your jobs and I hope when the city sues your asses, it comes straight out of your pensions. Arrest that fat bastard Toussaint and all the illegal strikers!!

9:48 AM

I'm pro-union and would be happy to support your strike if it wasn't for the unreasonable demands. 24 percent wage increase? Retire at 50? Maybe you started out so crazy as to not have programs cut? But if that was the case you would have kept negotiating because there was progress being made, even the president of the TWU said so. If he can't support your strike, how am I as a rider supposed to?

9:49 AM

YES FIRE US .IT TAKE THREE MONTHS TO LEARN THE JOB.CAN YOU WALK FOR 3 MONTHS

9:50 AM

How much does Roger Toussaint make a year?

9:52 AM

I'd rather walk for three months than have a pathetic, greedy, selfish lowlife like you drive my bus.

9:52 AM

DIRTY UNIONS ARE ON THE FLIP SIDE OF THE COIN WITH DIRTY MANAGMENT.

9:53 AM

YES FIRE US .IT TAKE THREE MONTHS TO LEARN THE JOB.CAN YOU WALK FOR 3 MONTHS

you mean none of the 33,000 workers would take the job? you people do live in fantasyland

9:53 AM

TWU LOCAL 100--THE PUBLIC IS NOT BEHIND YOU--NO ONE IS BEHIND YOU. YOU ARE GREEDY!

9:53 AM

WHERE IS THE SOLIDARITY?

It's not surprising that other conductors and transit workers aren't striking in support on local 100. This is a time when people say, "Send our brave troops off to die", but wouldn't go themselves. That is the example from the top.

9:54 AM

You have got to be kidding....I haven't gotten a raise in 3 years, I've been contributing for my healthcare for 10 years or more. Every industry has started to "tier" their retirement plans for new hires. You folks are just waking up to what the rest of the country already has to deal with, but we can't hold a city hostage like you can. Shame on you for your arrogance. I hope you are fined out of existance. If one person dies because they can't get to their doctor or hospital, you should all be held hostage. When you took the job you understood how critical your service is to the city. You are the real terrorists. 9/11 didn't cause as much chaos as you are causing today.

9:54 AM

get up, stand up

9:55 AM

The TWU (Toussaint) and the MTA (Kalikow)have proven themselves to be a bunch of selfish brats! This is no longer a case of getting TWU members better wages and pension plan -- it's now become a battle of egos between these two parties. You all should be ashamed of yourselves. The TWU members have allowed themselves to be brainwashed by this jackass -- he's not working for you; he's working his own agenda. It is worth getting fined two days pay for each day you're on strike? I don't think so. I don't see Toussaint walking the picket line with you.

9:56 AM

The TWU isn't an auto workers union working for a private/profit driven corporation...

Sure the MTA is probably corrupt, sure the honchos are probably pocketing cash. Sure the books are cooked I can accept all that.

The MTA is government... Like the US military, which is probably far more corrupt.... but provides a proper service...


Maybe the ARMY should strike since they don't get paid so much... Or maybe ConEd can go on strike... No gas or heat hurray!, Oh yeah why not the police, fire dept, sanitation...

It amazing unions still exist up here. Its amazing you have this bargaining power, and your not satified with the golden egg, you need the goose.

9:56 AM

You are greedy, pathetic bullies. You make a decent living with good benefits and here you are, like spoiled children, throwing a tantrum because you want "more."

Well, you know what? I HOPE THEY FIRE EVERY LAST ONE OF YOU AND HIRE PEOPLE WHO ARE INTERESTED IN WORKING FOR A LIVING!

P.S. If you want to behave like third world communists, go to Cuba. After all, communism only killed 100,000 people, so how bad can it be. Don't believe me? Open a history book, geniuses.

9:56 AM

I am bored with those striker: yet again another strike, yet again the same protest
gnagnagna I am not paid well, I want social security, I want this that.

can't you be just happy with what you have (uh nothing?), well can't you be happy with that?

for exemple me, I never striked, not even protest against any bosses! no it is true!
Well I have to admit I never worked neither, I am the son of some rich guy.

but anyway I do not understand the reason why the bus driver of Nowhere tenessee are on strike.

What? the strike is taking place in New York? damn CNN is not what it used to be.

9:57 AM

Anyone go to the TWU's broken website and see the tagline?

We move New York!

Priceless!

9:57 AM

It's not surprising that other conductors and transit workers aren't striking in support on local 100

According to NJ Transit union officials, they're not going out in support with the TWU because 2yrs ago the TWU didn't go out in support of them.

9:58 AM

ALL THOSE PEOPLE W/ MORE THAN YOU--THOSE PEOPLE WHO MAKE MORE MONEY THAN YOU...THEY WORKED HARD IN SCHOOL--THAT'S THE TRICK. THEY WON'T RETIRE AT THE SILLY AGE OF 55--THAT'S A JOKE. THEY ALSO PAY FOR MOST IF NOT ALL OF THEIR MEDICAL CARE. SO F YOU GUYS. YOU DESERVE WHAT YOU GET. YOU EARNED IT. SO GET BACK TO WORK.

9:58 AM

You guys are pathetic. What makes you think you deserve any better treatment than the rest of the majority of workers... ??

We're either paying more for benefits, or losing them too.
We're having retirement ages moved up.
We're not getting it as good as we used to.

Do we refuse to work, and affect MILLIONS of people? Nope. We live with it.

It pains me to think of the single mothers, the students, the elderly, who depend on the transit for so much of their existence.

Oh... but noooooooooo, you're UNION!!! We should stop the world for you!!! GET REAL.

Quit being WHINERS and go back to work!!

10:00 AM

just a precision,
the communist countries are accounted for more than 5 million deaths.
but what we are talking here is about worker that are happy to live in amlerica and that would be happier to stop working after the age of 55.

it has nothing to do with socialism.

I thought, we were all living to make our life better, happier. the striker do just that. They want to be be happier in their lives and in their jobs.

what is wrong with that?

10:03 AM

QUOTE:

"AMERICAN WORKERS DESERVE FAIR WAGES AND BENEFITS. Go TWU. I'm not a union member, nor a resident of NY/NJ."

OK, to the Rocket Scientist who posted this, you might be surprised to know that those of us who are actually walking in the 20 degree weather, who also happen to be pregnant, who are missing doctor appointments because of the time we lose from work in transit, aren't that interested in what someone in Davenport freaking Iowa has to say about this situation.

Secondly, and perhaps most importantly, these jerks who are striking ARE PAID A FAIR WAGE. They make more than I do, have more paid time off than I do, and get to retire earlier than I do. So I'm not so sure what it is they're complaining about. And I have no idea how they can look at themselves in the mirror, knowing that they are harming their friends, neighbors and children with their greed and selfishness.

FIRE THEM ALL!!!

10:03 AM

This union is a discrace to the city, you guys have great pay and benefits but you want more than the aveage NYer ever gets.

You should be ashamed of yourselves for shutting down the city the way you have and hurting the working class NYer the way you have.

10:04 AM

They are complaining about retiring at 62? About 4% annual pay raise. Maybe some of those clowns should get real jobs, then they'd know. What they pretty much did is spat in the face of what? like 50 million people that live or commute into the city? During the holiday season no less, and they want respect and solidarity. I say fire them all, put the union leaders in jail, and get some people in there who want a job.

10:05 AM

I support you guys! People need to be mad at Bloomberg and the MTA not the union workers!

People who are making mean spirited comments need to see that this isn't just about the union workers, it's about the disrespect that most workers are facing in this new age of business.

People forget that everyone has a right to a decent wage! Every underpaid person in NYC should support the union and take notes.

10:06 AM

I propose that the citizens of NY arise and picket the striking transit workers. They have put their own needs (which are minimal) ahead of the needs of the millions of NYers that rely upon them. This strike is conveniently occurring at the busiest time of the year which reflects the TWU's malicious and wilful agenda to make those who may suffer, suffer in the worst way. I hope that the state sanctions the TWU and its members for this reprehensible act. If it were up to me I would have them removed from NYC as they have drawn lines and demonstrated that they are fighting against the public as a whole, not merely the MTA. Good riddance Mr. Toussant.

10:08 AM

just wanted to express my support. good luck!

10:08 AM

three months to learn a subway job? oh jesus, maybe if you can't get a job anywhere else and you don't have a GED do you climb the learning curve that slowly. three months??? we can have new workers in running the system in two weeks. load of crap. Reagan replaced air traffic controllers -- do you think we can't replace subway people. time for pink slips and a reality check......

10:09 AM

Every single one of you whiners ought to be fired and replaced. Like small-brained lemmings you follow your failed leadership, endangering your own jobs, and inflicting your self righteousness on millions. My guess is you'd jump at getting your current job back once you're fired.

10:09 AM

You people are bunch of morons. You want more pay? Better health benefits? Maybe you should have finished high school. Don't hold up an entire city just because you were too stupid to get your GED.

Union labor is all that is wrong with this country. You are a bunch of unskilled, uneducated semi-retards that get paid an inordinate amount of money to do jobs that should be outsourced or filled with immigrants that will work for what the job is worth. Then, when you don't get your annual raise or God forbid you might have to take a little less, you strike, trying to get paid more to do less. Fucking scum of society.

You want all the things you claim? You should have been driven when you were a little younger and gotten into the position where your bosses are. Don't fuck with other people's lives and livelihood over your laziness.

Everyone in New York that is able should go break the picket line and do what they can to keep the transit running long enough to send you assholes to the streets to starve and die like the dogs you are.

Fuck you

10:10 AM

I am disabled and dying from Kidney failure on a fixed income, thanks to your selfish strike I have no way of getting to my doctors office or to the hospital for surgery.

It is SICKENING that people who admittedly make $48,000 a year (as stated by a TWU/MTA employee on NY1 news) think that they are 'suffering'. The starting salary for police officers who put their LIVE on the line every day is only $25,000.

If my health is affected by your deplorable actions I will not hesitate to sue your 'union'.

Mr. Toussant, you deserve a long and painfull death.

10:10 AM

The TWU is accomplishing nothing by holding this strike.... other than pissing off the other unions in this City.

The teamsters are pissed because they cant bring commercial trucks into the city to make deliveries.

The police and firefighters are pissed because you are being asked to be paid far in excess of what they earn even though your job isnt 1 billionth as dangerous.

Every trade union in the city is pissed because collective bargaining agreements grant contractors the right not to pay absent employees in the event of a transit strike.

Nice work geniuses. The people you are making most angry are the other UNIONS in the City. Those are the people you need to side with you in order to generate any real groundswell of support. Instead you are standing alone and will soon be standing alone paying back 2 days pay for every day you take off work as part of this idiotic action.

Personally, Id be willing to carpool or walk to work every day for 6 months if that is what it required for the City to fire all of you and hire replacements. Reagen did it with the air traffic controllers back in the 80s.

Oh, by the way, when you do all get fired by the City good luck finding work as a train conductor or bus driver somewhere else. Im sure there are plenty of train conductor jobs listed on Monster.com and plenty of municipal bus companies posting want ads in local papers. It isnt like your skills can be used at anything else. You work for the City or you dont work.

Get back to work, or start trying to figure out how you will pay back the penalties assessed to you under the Taylor Law when your Union disbands and your only income comes from Unemployment.

10:11 AM

muffingal....

What do you mean underpaid? Who is underpaid? Definately not twu members... the probably 30+% of new yorks population that is actually underpaid, is stuck at home, or walking in the cold to jobs with no benefits. paying for taxis they can't afford... etc...

you are delusional if you think >40K gross is underpaid in this city... thats a farkin nice wage.

10:11 AM

number one lesson for a striker to look at a mirror (it seems some people believe you can't do it, prove them wrong)

go to the nearest wallmart and get for 4.99 a mirror (yes the blue one). then go back home (yes in your bathroom that's the room where you should do it).

take the plastic off the mirror and hold it in front of you face (no the other side) and here you go! you did!
yes I know that's your face you see.

10:12 AM

47,000-55,000$ per year... I can only imagine what it would be like to get paid that much per year. And to think that the union is striking becuase of that. Did it every occur to you to think of others? Those who cant get home, Those stranded in freezing weather, not to mention those who must get to work but now cant. A terrible thing has been done today

10:13 AM

BUST THE UNION.

10:14 AM

The reality is that many people are out of work. Many people do not have the benefits that the striking employees have enjoyed for years. My husband, degreed & a high-level manager, did not receive any pay raise for 5 years, much less receive the bonuses for which he was entitled. He was laid off in July and is still seeking work.

The big picture is that it's hard to appreciate what you have until you don't have it. The striking workers are literally paying the price for their walkout - a decision undoubtedly not wholly made by them.

It's Christmas - a time to appreciate what you have - and the workers have more than many in this Country. A compromise has been offered, giving a generous pay raise for three consecutive years. How much is enough?

There's always someone worse off than you.....

I would give anything for my husband to have a job once again. A pay raise? An added blessing.

Wishing a speedy end to the strike and a return to the joyous opportunity to enjoy Manhattan at Christmas - hassle free.

Merry Christmas & God bless each and every one of you.

10:14 AM

muffingal,

wake up. this is a global economy. it is a flat world. we can no longer pretend anymore. we have to compete w India, Russia, China now. all of the individuals there w strong educational heritages and who BUST THEIR ASSES --

10:15 AM

PATHETIC! Unions are outdated and need to be disbanded.

Need to be respected? Oh yeah. Leaving people to find their way around in the cold and causing others to lose $$ because the can't get to work. That definitely deserves to be respected....not!

I am so sick of people whining and crying and whining and crying all the damn time.

I have to agree on the mayor with this one - complete and total cowardly act by a man who is corrupt himself and is enjoying throwing around his mighty power.

"Train Station is Close - Happy Holidays"? They are enjoying this.

It IS a slap in the face to New York!

10:16 AM

Just imagine all the heaps of stinking "respect" y'all will get when- if you ever get to work again. Think all of the riders will be kind, couteous, appreciative?

10:17 AM

Shame on you TWU. You guys suck!

10:18 AM

muffingal,

wake up. it is now a flat world. no more refusing to compete with educated, ambitious individuals in India, China, and Russia who have never had the kind of opportunities we have. this is what is making us have to work harder. you can sit there and whine about global competition and call current working conditions "disrespect" or you can face reality that we no longer have artificial protection from competing with people who are hungrier than we are. stop whining and start showing some of the character of these people in other countries who do not have the opportunities we have here.

10:18 AM

The TWU is a bunch of communist douche bags that's ruining Christmas for everyone.

10:18 AM

If your union "leaders" tell you to go jump off a bridge...

10:21 AM

My wife is a teacher and has been WORKING without a contract for 4 months. Suck it up, shut up, and drive the freaking trains!

10:22 AM

How many of the 7million riders of the transit system would LOVE to be guaranteed 3, 4, and 3.5% raises in the next 3 years, and ONLY have to pay 1% of their total Health Care costs?????

My only hope for these negitiations is that each and every striking worker is fined the full 2 days pay for every day on strike, and that the State collects every dime from each person...not from the Union.

10:25 AM

The union's executive board voted 28 to 10, with 5 members abstaining, to start the strike, but Michael T. O'Brien, the president of the Transport Workers Union of America, Local 100's parent union, warned the board that he could not support a strike because he believed the authority's most recent offer represented real progress.

10:26 AM

My wife is a teacher and has been WORKING without a contract for 4 months. Suck it up, shut up, and drive the freaking trains!
You thing that's a fucking accomplishment? If Randi Weingarten (President of the UFT) had the nerve to call a strike, maybe your wife would have a contract today.
As it stands, the city and state abuses the Taylor law to negotiate in bad faith.

10:27 AM

OK, IT IS CLEAR THAT SOME OF THESE POSTS ARE FROM UNION PEOPLE. IF YOU'RE FROM A UNION, SAY SO. DON'T ACT LIKE YOU'RE PART OF THE PUBLIC. THE PUBLIC DOESN'T SUPPORT YOU. THE PUBLIC WORKS FOR A LIVING AND KNOWS THE VALUE OF A DOLLAR.

2-DAY FINES??? WHAT A JOKE!!! FIRE THEM ALL NOW. REAGAN FIRED ALL THE AIR TRAFFIC CONTROLLERS IMMEDIATELY. THINGS WERE MUCH BETTER AS A RESULT. THIS IS EASIER AND MORE STRAIGHTFORWARD THAN THAT. BLOOMBERG -- FOLLOW SUIT!!!

10:31 AM

Take a look at a typical TWU worker and tell me if they could get a job anywhere else.

Not only do most of them look and act like they should be featured in a photo array at the post office, but their sense of entitlement compounds their stupidity.

I hope they are fined to the max, two days in jail for every day they strike. Morons!!!!!!!

10:31 AM

Irrational requests (defined benefits are no longer sustainable demands when people's life expectancies approach 80 years old), illegal work stoppage, and malicious timing remove any simpathy I might of had for your cause. This strike will likely bankrupt your union again. Maybe that will be a signal to your future leaders that you should treat the people of NYC with the same respect that the NYPD, FDNY, teachers, etc have by not shutting this city down in the pursuit of your own agenda.

10:32 AM

You guys are a bunch of mindless pawns. Puppets. Who's pulling the strings. Roger Toussaint and the greedy union bosses. They tell you what you want--they tell you want to do--and you jump to it. Why don't you all just go jump off a cliff like a bunch of stupid cattle on a stampeed. 9% pay raise over the next 3 years. Greedy sheep.

10:34 AM

I second what Patrick said. Follow Reagan's example, Bloomberg! Don't let the greedy morons of the TWU hold the city hostage! Fire them all! I guarantee that there are PLENTY of New Yorkers interested in making 50K a year with benefits. Get them hired, trained and let's get this city moving! Step up, Bloomberg!

10:34 AM

News flash smart guy,
people who spend their whole day working underground in tunnels are probably not going to live til 80.

10:34 AM

I am proud that the union has stood it's ground. In these last years, unions have sold their members under the table with puny raises that don't meet the standard of inflation. For the blue collar workers that keep this city running, we should be thankful and appreciate them but we don't. We feel that they are asking too much even though they provide the services that are essential to their lives. They aren't asking too much. A decent raise, security training with no reduction in benefits is not too much. The MTA's offer of 3 to 4 % raises with a hike in pension payments and medical fees negates any gain that their raises would give. I support the union 200%. I will walk until they get a fair deal.

10:34 AM

May what Reagan did to PATCO happen to you.

10:35 AM

what are the disciplinary actions the union is looking to address?

10:35 AM

Didn't the teachers work for years w/out a contract? You guys pose an illegal strike during christmas. A time of year many in the city depend on business to make their books. Merry christmas to you greedy pigs.

10:35 AM

The standard of inflation is not 9% a year. And that's not enough--you want more? You guys are the cause of inflation.

10:37 AM

Let's keep in mind that a couple of years ago when the MTA raised transit fare to avoid a deficit it turned out a couple of months later that the fare hike was unnecessary because there was in fact a huge surplus. Also, please realize that the MTA is a corporation that, like most corporation, is run by old greedy white men who do not care about the needs of people of color or the working class. We also need to talk about the Taylor Law. What is it, and why is it being implimented? I'll tell you why, because the state if NY doesn't profit from such a move. And why is it unlawful to strike, or stand-up for your rights?
It's corporate greed at its finest!
The MTA says it wants to avoid a predicted deficit in 2008, but unlike clothes, the NY transit system will never go out of style. As long us there is 7 million people living in the city, and as NY contiunes to be the world capital of tourism, there will never be a deficit in the MTA because it will always be in high demand ... folks depend on it like they depend on water.

I fully support the transit union and its workers. Keep pushing on, and hang in there!!!

10:39 AM

Is there some type of correlation between train conductors and higher mortality rates? Are the trains running on coal? I don't believe there is a study that says subway and bus workers die at younger ages (as there are with police and fire fighter, who by the way have not felt the need to strike).

10:40 AM

Any goodwill you could have had from New Yorkers disappeared this morning. A transit strike at Christmas!? Thats the worst possible thing. You could have agreed to a truce for a month... you're hurting everyone. No one is seeing this as the MTAs fault (and I'm no fan of theirs)... they see the Union doing this. It it appears to come down to greed and a lack of fairness... I mean come on - citing that the MTA can't complain about things such as staff discipline??? In the real world, where my wife and I live, we have to pay for health care, we have to pay into our 401K, we make less than 70K between us, and now our commute to work has skyrocketed. When we screw up or don't do our jobs we get reprimanded or *gasp* fired. Merry f**king Christmas you bastards.
- Michael

10:40 AM

You should be ashamed of yourselves. An illegal strike is nothing to be proud of. Thirty people apply for each MTA job -- I bet many of them would be willing to do your job for LESS than you are paid. You are already overpaid and should be grateful for the jobs you have. I hope each one of you is fired. Let me think about some wonderful MTA employee moments -- the F train that never comes. The garbage train instead of the 6 train. The V train that does not hold its doors for the B train. The employees smoking on the West Fourth platform at 1 am. Or another employee spraying down a platform at 2am on a Friday night, when for the same money, could hire three immigrants to scrub the platform with a toothbrush. The booth workers.. there are always two in there and one is closed?? Go Home MTA Workers. I hope you all get fired and replaced by competent hard workers.

10:41 AM

TO:GPS
CALL AN AMBULETTE JUST LIKE EVERY MEDICARE /MEDICAID SUCKING IMMIGRANT DOES TO GO TO A DOCTOR TO HAVE THEIR BLOOD PRESSURS TAKEN AND CHARGE THE GOVT HUNDREDS OF DOLLARS FOR THAT..I"VE SEEN PEOPLE GET IN THOSE HIGH PRICED CAR SERVICE(AMBULETTE)WHO CAN EASILY TAKE PUBLIC TRASPORTATION BUT DO NOT WANT TO SPEND A BUCK BUT HAVE GOVT SPEND HUNDREDS TO TAKE THEM. NOW THERE IS ABUSE!!!

10:41 AM

My parents support a family of six on less than $35,000 combined annual income and minimal benefits. And TWU is complaining about $47,000 to $55,000, benefits, and annual pay raises??

This only goes to show we as Americans are lazy but think the world owes us more than we deserve.

10:43 AM

Who even needs you guys? Your jobs can be automated. Thank the maker you have a job b/c you don't deserve it. You guys are little more than extremely well paid undereducated greedy automatons. You want more--should have worked for it when you had a chance--in school. The Teachers are weak for not striking--it's clear you never listened to your teachers.

10:43 AM

BREAKING NEWS 10:40AM E.S.T. AP: Two trains collide south of Rome, injuring dozens of people, according to Italian news agency reports. CNN working to confirm.

This is what happens when you fire all your union workers and replace them with $8/hr workers.

All you cry babies that keep saying you have no way of getting to work (boo-hoo) or have to push your baby, why don't you go out and buy a fricking CAR? You can't you say because you can't afford one? Well these TWU employees are making sure they can still buy a car too and sustain their average lifestyle and buy a home for their family and not have to live in a trailer. Support the TWU.

10:43 AM

Required reading:

NY Daily News: How the MTA brought this on itself

Unfortunately, Kalikow and the MTA have long since thrown away their credibility. The agency lost $300 million to fraud and cost overruns at its own headquarters, leading Attorney General Eliot Spitzer to tell my colleague Michael Goodwin, "Of all the authorities, the MTA is the most mismanaged, least competent one out there, and everybody knows it." That's putting it mildly. This is the agency that Controller Alan Hevesi found kept two sets of books - one for the public, and the real numbers. The same place that claimed a deficit, then a small surplus, and then a billion-dollar surplus - which the MTA voted to spend down last week even as the strike deadline approached.

So when Dellaverson told reporters that "the bucket is full" and that no more money could be offered to workers, it was almost comical. A reporter asked how much money it would take to meet the union's supposedly unreasonable demands, Dellaverson waffled.

"I have a spreadsheet upstairs," he said. "I haven't run it."

10:44 AM

You Do The Crime, Do The Time!!! They should fire all of you, take away your pensions and benefits, and not give you unemployment. To finish they should fine you until you are all bankrupt. There are plenty of people in America who would do these jobs for significantly less and probably better. You made a big mistake not listening to the National Union. Your ego got the best of you. I feel no remorse for what is coming your way at 11am. I hope the courts have a field day with you. This is the type of behavior that destroys unions and hurts the employees most of all. I pity you fools!

10:45 AM

I am so proud of our transit workers. You deserve a pension, you deserve dignity and respect, and you deserve to refuse to work when those things aren't granted to you. It shouldn't be illegal to strike. This country has marginalized labor to the point where workers can't speak up when they are exploited and mistreated.

NYC loves transit workers. You have our support and love.

If you're not a worker, here are places to go to support the workers. Bring them hot cocoa, coffee, and your support.

*Strike Locations:*

BRONX

Gunhill Depot: 1910 Bartow Avenue
Pelham Barn/Westchester Sq. Yard: Eastchester Rd. & Water Street
Zerega CMF: 750 Zerega Avenue
180th Street Yard: 1151 East 180 Street
West Farms Depot: 1100 East 177th Street
Concourse Yard: 3119 Jerome Avenue
Jerome Yard: Jerome Ave. & Van Courtlandt Ave.
239th St. Barn: 4570 Furman Avenue
240th St. Barn: 5911 Broadway
Eastchester Depot: Interstate 95 at Exit 13
Yonkers Depot: 59 Babcock St.
Tiffany Iron: 1170 Oakpoint Avenue

BROOKLYN
East New York Depot/Shop: 1700 Bushwick Avenue
Flatbush Depot: Flatbush & Utica Ave.
Coney Island Yard: Avenue X & McDonald
Ulmer Park Depot: Cropsey Ave. & Bay
Jackie Gleason Depot: 871 Fifth Avenue
Pitkin Yard: 1434 Sutter Avenue
Livonia Shop: 824 Linwood Shop
Atlantic Ave/Bergen Street Shop: 1415 Bergen Street
Linden Shop: 1500 Linden Blvd.
Cozine: 50 Cozine Avenue

QUEENS
Fresh Pond Depot: 56-99 Fresh Pond Road
Jamaica Barn: 7815 Grand Central Parkway
Jamaica Depot: 114-15 Guy R. Brewer Blvd.
Corona Barn: 126-53 Willets Point Blvd.
Triboro Coach Depot: 8501 24th Avenue
College Point Depot: 128-15 28th Avenue
Maspeth CMF:
Woodside Electronic Shop: 33-33 54th Street

MANHATTAN
Kingsbridge Depot: 4065 10th Avenue
207th St. Yard: 3961 10 Avenue
Manhattanville Depot: 666 West 133rd St.
100th Street Depot: 1552 Lexington Avenue at 100th Street
Michael J. Quill Depot: 525 11th Avenue
West 53rd St Power/RCC: 53rd St. btw 8/9
126th Street Depot: 2460 Second Avenue

10:46 AM

the morons complaining about the striking workers only care about how it effects them. "ooh, i can't get to work! ooh i can't get home" well than i guess those transit workers are pretty darn important! let them get paid! these workers aren't protected by osha, they are only alloted 20 minutes for lunch. they can't get a day off to watch their children in a play or other event unless they submit these requests 30 days in advance. try planning your life 30 days in advance. these workers are your neighbors and your friends, ask instead why the TA won't open their books. 3 years ago the transit workers negotiated in good faith and accepted a poor contract because of a supposed deficit. 2 weeks later 240 million dollars were found by the TA, so much for good faith!
NO JUSTICE NO PEACE
NOFAIR CONTRACT NO WORK!

10:46 AM

Who even needs you guys? Your jobs can be automated. Thank the maker you have a job b/c you don't deserve it. You guys are little more than extremely well paid undereducated greedy automatons. You want more--should have worked for it when you had a chance--in school. The Teachers are weak for not striking--it's clear you never listened to your teachers.

Yeah, you get on that automated train first buddy. In fact, why don't you get on a train with no workers in the middle of East New York round 3 a.m.. We'll see what happens. AS for the teachers, teachers were the first municipal employees to DEFY the Taylor law and strike, in 1967. AND THEY WON!
read it dumbass:
http://www.uft.org/news/teacher/labor/taylor_law/

10:47 AM

Hey, what be all the whining about? I be gadjudated ferm the 8th gade, and can drive a big bus 'round real gooood in trafic.

I nevr had to think fer meself 'cause I get me a smart guy who nos what I be needin to servive, like Mssr Tuissant, (He also have wax mooseeum on 34th).

We axually be need'n more money cuz I spend alot at OTB.

So there all you winey assholes!

10:48 AM

Ahh, how intelligent you are. The racism comes out.

10:48 AM

I support striking transit workers in New York.

10:49 AM

The comments of some of you about the "selfishness" of the strikers is obscene. If it was your salary being cut in the face of the MTA's big profits then you'd see it differently.

This is just another example of the current assault going on against the middle class in this country. MTA as well as other companies around this country (PPG Industries in Natrium, WV) are trying to apply the same principles as Northwest Airlines, GM and others, but they forget the difference, neither of these are in bankruptcy!!! they are instead making hoards of money.

Get out there and support the people who provide you with you sustenance so that you can make a living, as well.

10:49 AM

Selfish bastards:

I'm going to be in college for 5 years to get a degree in mechanical engineering, and I can only WISH I would make $55,000 a year out of college, free medical, and a pension plan to retire on after 25 years.

You're all a bunch of greedy Scrooges and I hope you get replaced by a cheap computer.

10:49 AM

$8/hour workers will cause a crash??? fearmongering from the union -- please. pathetic. do you think it is harder to replace subway workers than AIR TRAFFIC CONTROLLERS??? we didn't have any plane crashes then now did we. nice try -- we can come up with some GED-less workers that will gladly accept 45K and benefits.

10:50 AM

I am the son of a retired TWU member. Reading the comment of the apparently near illiterate "Anonymous":

"All you do is drive around in circles. Your job isn't hard at all...You're asking for way too much here. Back down and know your roll..."

Brings me back to when my father struck, under the leadership of the great Mike Quill, in 1966, and we heard the same ignorant argument. As a 10 year old, it led me to my first cultural observation, one that has been confirmed over and over since: "Americans can be very funny; they alwasys think that eveyone else is paid to much and does not earn their salary, but they themselves never make enough!".

10:52 AM

people dont know how hard Transit WOrkers have it They get in trouble when they run late or early mean while you standing waiting for a bus with your metrocard buried deep in purse. YOu leave home LATE and fight with driver because HE getting you to work late. They deal with pleanty of different temperments every single day and if they say anything back they risk getting displined. They are not even fighting for there own rights now they fighting for our fathers, brothers, sons daughter and family who might want one of these jobs in the future
any benefits they get are well deserved and the benefits they do get are not the best Im sure MTA management has alot of better of benefits then the guy dealing with the public.
the mayor and govenor BOTH INTERFERED by going to court and giving the MTA the UPPER HAND so the TWU had no choice
if you want to blame someone blame the MAYOR AND GOVERNOR
imagine then coming to your boss saying dont worry we make sure she coomes to work everyday your boss going to walk all over you
THAT WHAT THEY DID TO TWU

10:52 AM

don't play the damn race card here. just get back to work and stop whining. new yorkers don't buy that shit -- might work in DC -- doesn't work here -- people work for a living.

10:52 AM

Iam really tired of hearing people bash the union!WHO ARE YOU TO SAY WHAT THEY ARE PAID IS A FAIR AND DECENT WAGE? DO YOU FULLY UNDERSTAND THAT THE UNION WORKERS ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR YOUR SAFTEY DAY IN AND DAY OUT!AND YOU HAVE THE NERVE TO CALL THEM GREEDY, UNEDUCATED, AND THEY DONT CARE ABOUT N.Y. ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME?BECAUSE YOU DONT HAVE THE BALLS TO STAND UP FOR YOURSELF, YOU TURN AROUND AND CONDEM THE PEOPLE THAT DO?THEY ARE OUT THERE STANDING UP FOR MORE THAN JUST THEMSELVES! THEY ARE THE ONES THAT HAVE THE POWER TO STOP THE CITY AND MAKE DICKHEADS LIKE THE MAYOR, AND GOVENOR PAY ATTENTION! BUT ITS SPINLESS ASSHOLES LIKE YOU THAT FUCK IT UP BY CRYING ! INSTEAD OF FOLLOWING SUIT AND SAYING FUCK YOU WE WORK HARD FOR OUR MONEY WE DESERVE BETTER FOR OUR FAMILES.YOU SAY FIRE THEM ! THERE'S SOMEONE ELSE TO WORK IT, WELL FUCK YOU TOO!HOW LONG BEFORE SOMEONE SELLS YOU OUT? YOU INDIGNANT FUCK! YEA YOU!GO AHEAD BANKRUPT THE UNION! RIDDLE ME THIS SMART ASS : HOW DO YOU TAKE SOMETHING FROM NOTHING? IN THE END WE AS UNION MEMBERS OR MEMBERS FAMILIES WILL STILL HAVE SELF RESPECT! WHAT WILL YOU HAVE YOU SPINLESS FUCK? GO AHEAD SELL US OUT! THATS EXACTLLY WHAT WE WONT DO!SAY WHAT YOU WANT BE PISSED OFF, JUST KNOW , WE WOULD'NT CROSS THE STREET TO PISS ON YOU IF YOU WERE ON FIRE. WHAT LOYAL N.Y.'S

10:53 AM

If the job required any intelligence, none of the current TWU workers would be employed!

10:53 AM

I'm going to be in college for 5 years to get a degree in mechanical engineering, and I can only WISH I would make $55,000 a year out of college, free medical, and a pension plan to retire on after 25 years.

You're all a bunch of greedy Scrooges and I hope you get replaced by a cheap computer.
Waah! Waah! Waah!
Mech Engineer? And you're complaining about your starting base salary??? Gimme a fucking break you baby.

10:53 AM

tinita,

work 5 min in the private sector -- yes, the REAL world. you'll be glad to be entitled to that kind of job.

10:54 AM

happy holidays you selfish bastards. you underworked overpayed fat ass lazy mofos.

your leadership is bring you as close as possible to the fires of hell. the non-union public will not support this. look at gm, the airlines, hockey. you are doing nothing to your help you cause.

10:54 AM

Attention Wal Mart employees, 30000 job opportunities coming up. Double your current pay, benefits included, and a pension to boot!!!

I think you'll have just a few applications!!!LOL

The TWU has got to go!!!

10:55 AM

Stupid idiots, striking will not accomplish anything. All the time there are talks about increasing this, increasing that, good enought that MTA fare went up to $2. You guys make more than police, teachers etc. and you still have the balls to ask for more????
That is just simply ridiculus, I just hope that they'll make you pay for this

10:55 AM

I am LOVING this! Just got to work after a 2 and 1/2 communte. I didnt mind, made some new friends.

But what I love is that the UNION HAS NO SUPPORT!

You are screwed buddies.

And you TWU members who autghorized the strike, I am getting paid today. Are you? And do you think that keeping the city hostage is goiung to work?

Hold in MTA, fire these lazy bastards.

Wow, I wish we could outsource these jobs to someone else. You clain it takes 3 months to learn the jobm yeah three months if you have a bird-brain.

10:56 AM

If you don't want to work (aka the strike), you should be fired and someone who is willing to work should be hired in their place. Strikes like this are ridiculous.

10:56 AM

Please don't do this to the people of New York. WE didn't take anything away from you. And the majority of us are JUST LIKE YOU...hardworking Americans trying to make ends meet.

AND YOU ARE TAKING AWAY OUR ABILITY TO DO THAT.

Please go back to work.

10:56 AM

Sounds like the majority of you agree that this strike is based on greed and selfishness and for that I applaud your intelligence and rationale.

As for the damn liberals and union members who are for this strike, F-U to the upmost infinite regions of your assholes. Your delusional reasons for supporting and acting on this is completely ridiculous. I agree with many of the comments made here regarding firing all of you. The holidays are not just for shopping and festivities but also to acknowledge what we have and should be grateful for. There are people in this world who have less than you and would be very thankful for the benefits derived from working with the MTA. Think about the folks in New Orleans who don't have a home to put up their Xmas three or the soldiers in Iraq that have to be away from their family around this time. They have lost and sacrificed a lot more than you pricks.

P.S. Roger Touissant - I hope you smoke some seriously laced weed tonight and walk off a bridge.

10:56 AM

To the rank and file members of Local 100 - you have been led down a path that will not gain you any sympathy. From the information that I have seen/read, you want 8% pay raise per year for the next three years. Who are you kidding. 24% pay raise, when the cost of living only goes up 8%-9% within the same period? Get back to work!

To the leadership of the union - You have to be pretty greedy to take your workers out on strike like this. I hope that the courts fine you millions of dollars to include the 2 for 1 penalty. You are violating the law - nothing less.

10:56 AM

Reprehensible is what these overpaid underworked fools are doing to the average working person. Standard raises in corporate America is 3%. Retirement age is 65. The transit workers want respect. They get on average $55,000 per year before overtime. That is reprehensible.
The TWU is a joke!

10:56 AM

I'm really glad to read the many compliants from the graduated flunkeys of the ruling class who decry striking workers as selfish and overpaid for their education level while these same people often applaud capitalists for acting in rational self interest (selfishness). When your job as an architech, radiologist, or computer programmer is subject to the next round of outsourcing, downsizing, and other typical processes of capitalist efficiency I hope you realize that this is a power stuggle, when you have the power you struggle.

10:57 AM

Why are all the places where union members supposed to be picketing EMPTY??????

Are they too lazy to picket?

10:57 AM

NYC is in solidarity with TWU.

The MTA shits on NYC by spending the $1 billion surplus on reduced fare Metrocards... but for WHO?

Not for New Yorkers but for tourists who come to NYC during the holiday time.

Not for transit workers who are denied their pensions.

Support transit workers, and you also support NYC!

10:58 AM

The communists all over the world must be extremely happy to see this strike.

10:58 AM

I think Touissant should walk, he could use the excercise, but hey, he's chauffeured around in a limo, sleeping in a four star hotel, eating and drinking well, while being paid very handsomely while you fools are standing in the cold.

The transit employees are the real suckers in this deal. You are all being played and will wind up paying dearly in the end. Look at the Local 6 strike of years ago. It almost destroyed them.

10:58 AM

8 percent raises? Willing to go to 6 if the city promises to not punish you for doing poor work? How can anyone look at this and believe the union leadership has a brain of any sort. Even the TWU won't stand behind Local 100...

If I ever get an 8 percent raise ever in my life without changing jobs, I'll recant my comments. It won't happen

Kill the pension, ask for a 401K...you control the money, not the city, much better, safer deal...unions have been screwing their membership by pushing for better pensions for years...by the way...retiring at 55? You're in a dream world.

Two things should happen here:

1) FIRE THE UNION EMPLOYEES...I'm sure we can find people in New York who'd like $50,000 a year and a set 3-4 percent raise each year.

2) FILE CLASS-ACTION SUITS AGAINST THE UNION...Everyone is paying more for a cab, walking, missing work, losing holiday business. That's a lot of money. Sue the union until it's broke.

I'm a fan of unions when they are fair, just and asking for what they deserve, but no MTA employee needs an 8 percent raise.

If there's a million extra bucks, shouldn't they lower the rates paid by the riders, rather than just giving it to a bunch of cry-babies?

10:58 AM

Why the MTA feels they are better than every other city worker in every other major city is appalling. Everyone else has a retirement age of 62; has to contribute to their pension; has to contribute to their health care - even other city and state employees in NYC. And many of these other city employees REQUIRE a higher education. NYPD requires 2 years of college. Teachers must have a amsters degree after teaching for a certain number of years. And they both make less money than MTA workers (and p.s., teachers don't get overtime people). Their sense of entitlement from a system that cannot support their demands is preposterous.

To strike the week of Christmas (p.s. the first economically fit season since 9/11) is disgusting. But the people who have the ability to email, surf the web and post messages on this blog are not the people the Union needs to apologize to - the people this union needs to apologize to are the people who make less money than them, who have no insurance, pension, benefits, etc., and today couldn't get to work because of this strike and just lost their income, a day which they couldn't afford to lose.

SHAME ON YOU!!!!

10:59 AM

Fire all of these idiots! BUST THE UNION. I will walk to work for the rest of my life before I would give in to these jerks!

10:59 AM

The Average national wage is $35,658.00
The Average MTA worker makes $50,000.00
.. they are bitchin' about only getting a 3.5% to 4% raise..

Boo Hoo!

Lets all join in the pity party for these "Underpaid & Unrespected" morons.

Better yet, fire them all now and lets watch the lines form down and around the block of people more than willing to take your job for themselves.

11:00 AM

Message to bloated unions. F-ck yourself. You will all be fired, you greedy scumbags. I would not hire a transit worker to take out my trash.

11:01 AM

Strike on TWU!!! You cannot compare civil service jobs - Teachers, firemen and all should be paid more, but the fact Bush and Albany continually cut funding means that the TWU should not get their fare share of a $1 Billion surplus? Those negatively commenting are effected in a short term way - these are workers who are the foundation of the city and in a way set the standard (often minimum) of what a worker is worth in a blue collar industry. Shut up and walk people. Help these folks get what they deserve - a piece of the surplus fatcats sit on.

11:03 AM

You are a rogue local striking illegally against the consent of your parent union. You have a maintenance guy in charge of negotiating on your behalf. Your work stoppage is putting people who require medical care, like my father in law, in harm's way. No one should support this strike if the parent union doesn't. This isn't collective bargaining in good faith- it is extortion spearheaded by an inept socialist in Roger Toussaint.

11:04 AM

When the contract first expired I sided with the emloyees. As a daily rider I'm not a fan of the MTA, mainly because I feel that our money isn't being spent in an appropriate way. As I look at the facts, I am slowly siding with the MTA.

First of all, the MTA and the city are two different entities. I'm tired of hearing people say the mayor and governor are not taking enough of a stand and they actually "encourage the strike." They serve the public's best interest- and unfortunately the public has been left out of the union's mind.

As far as I'm concerned, the last deal from the MTA was more than fare. I can't imagine a single job where people are guaranteed a raise every year and have to pay nothing for health insurance. I almost wish the city would acquire the MTA so the selfish board members wouldn't have as much leverage.

The TWU's logic is flawed. In their eyes, each employee should have a piece of the MTA's budget surplus. In future years when the MTA is in a deficit, the agency should have the right to remove wages or benefits, based on the TWU's stance.

The TWU's actions guarantee future rate hikes for MTA riders. More often than not I encounter a transit employee that is rude or just plain going through the motions, rather than taking pride in what he or she does. I hope if you get a decent deal with the contract, each one of the employees will returned to the job with a refreshed purpose.

11:04 AM

Guys,

NYC is with you 100%!
Stay strong!

11:05 AM

Its funny the union kerps mentioning the 1 billion suprlus, as if all the money should go to them. Come on, there are lots of places where money can go. Here in Brooklyn, many subway stations are crappy and urgently in need of repairs and this alone will cost lots of money.

11:05 AM

you guys definitely deserve more money than cops.

way to go $ucker$.

11:06 AM

One more thing- That $1 billion surplus Toussaint is crybagging about is an illusion of accounting. The MTA would be swimming in a sea of red were it not for multiple billions in annual government subsidies.

11:06 AM

I am amazed at the number of people in this town who do not support workers and their right to strike. We are inconvenienced a little, TWU members lose their pay, and maybe more, the week of Christmas as they struggle to beat back those who would weaken benefits and pension plans. Their struggle is for all workers, unionized or not. I am not in a union, but my father was, and he participated in strikes when called upon, so his kids could go to college, and he could retire out of poverty. What TWU workers are doing is courageous in the face of the threats coming their way.

11:07 AM

I walked across to Broolyn Bridge to work today and felt like I was, in my own way, walking the picket line with TWU's workers. I'm proud of all of you that you are standing up for yourselves, your families and the rights of all workers to achieve a secure, middle class standard of living. TWU is ABSOLUTELY doing the right (and brave) thing, and I am certain that all thinking New Yorkers are behind you 100%.

11:08 AM

Automation = Solution.....

Unions work themselves out of a job, and cost the country millions.

If the MTA is "bad", illegal in operations, wrong in management... then attack that; not the people of the city.

Compare your job/pay with others and you will find you are near the top for ANY similar employment.

You force the MTA to consider (hopefully in positive way) the automation...then you'll cry foul and moan and groan all the way to collect your unemployment.

11:08 AM

you people should be shot.

11:10 AM

To all TWU workers: If you dont like your job, quit it and go get another job that will give you better pay. Don't screw up 700 million ppl for your own sake. Come on, this is NYC, a place with tons of opportunities for people to get a high-profile job or become a successful entrepreneur. If you're stuck up with a job that you think you're underpaid, you know what, THAT'S YOUR FUCKING PROBLEM!!!

11:11 AM

On behalf of the Computer Center of the Puerto Rico Teachers Federation, the largest union in all Puerto Rico (over 32 thousand members), we grant you our solidarity and our thoughts during this strike. Here in Puerto Rico we believe that only through direct action of the workers against our employers and bosses will we ever gain any progress on our contract negotiations. And by building the militancy and organization of the members of each local, affiliate or independent union will we develope a strong workers movement to resist neoliberalism, capitalism and privatization.

New York transit workers, we will talk with our President and Executive Comitte to see if they can make a formal declaration.

Our phone is 787 766-1818. Ask for either Hugo Delgado or Mauricio Rodriguez.

11:12 AM

I hope Mayor bloomberg has you all arrested and you get AIDS in prison from being gang raped

11:12 AM

I believe the MTA workers have the right decide if they want to work for $70K or not. And if they don't want to accept those stingy wages, they are perfectly free to find another job.

The definition of 'worth $70K' is that someone is willing to pay you that much, WITHOUT UNDUE COERCION. I make good money, but my supervisors are happy to pay it to get my work output. I don't have to put a gun to their heads to get it; they know that there are other corporations willing to pay me for my services.

You guys are cutting your own throats - the public no longer sheds a single tear of sympathy when a unionized factory shuts down and moves overseas - especially if there's been a past strike with shouts of "we'll shut this company down!". Those losers simply got what they wanted - they didn't want to work for what the company offered, and so now they don't.

I wish the same on you.

11:12 AM

I'll tell you what... I don't have a problems with the demands of the TWU. You guys want 8% per year, if you can get it fine. You don't want incoming workers to get stuck with 1% contribution to medical, fine. You want to be able to retire at the age of 52, God bless you.

You get those things sitting at a table and talking. You get those things by making other concessions. You get those things if your bosses give them to you.

YOU DO NOT GET THOSE THINGS BY PUTTING THE ENTIRE CITY OUT OF IT'S WAY.

Here is a fact of life, you took the job knowing that every three years you have to give something to get something. You took the job knowing that you would have to work some holidays because your "BROTHERS AND SISTERS" were going to get the day before you. You took the job knowing that there are disiplinary actions for stupid crap like wearing a scarf on a cold day.

YOU TOOK THE JOB, I didn't. The reason your strike is illegal is because you shut down a vital part of the city infrastructure. You do not have the right to affect your customer base in an effort to negotiate. You should be at work while your negotiators sit at that table.

Yes, the city and the MTA should have stepped up to the plate, and I am sorry they didn't, but now YOUR problems are mine and they shouldn't be.

I pay to use the system that YOU decided to shut down. I want these services back. If not, I hope you go bankrupt paying me back for my losses. MY COST OF LIVING HAS NOW QUADRUPLED BECAUSE YOU WANT WHAT YOU WANT YOUR CAKE, AND YOU WANT TO EAT IT TOO.

11:15 AM

TWU members, do you really think it's about you? Who in this country ever cared about little guys?! Your union leaders care as much about you as MTA cares about us, the riders.

What is MTA here for? To make sure trains and buses are running. What is the union here for? To make sure workers get the benefits they deserve. Do you think you will get benefits now? You might but after all the fines placed on you guys you will lose money in the long run.

You think your leaders are doing great with that strike. I think they failed you for not getting a fair contract for you without getting you fined. And MTA failed us for letting the situation to escalate to this.

All the comments about MTA workers are uncalled for but so is the strike. I say don't blame each other, blame the leaders because they are the ones that failed.

11:16 AM

I do not understand this. I am a daily commuter who believes in worker rights. However, your benefits are over and above anything I can ever anticipate in my entire working career. Retire at 55? You must be kidding. I am an indentured servant until I am at least 70. You get annual raises -- most people in the private sector haven't had annual raises since 2001. Not even cost of living increases. The billion dollar surplus was returned to the riders in the form of those reduced fare passes and better trains (because the trains suck unless you ride the 4/5/6.) You all know that. You can't hear/understand announcements, they smell, they're dirty, and they're technologically arcane. I do not uderstand what you expect and why you feel entitled. Please explain. I'd like to empathize, but I really can't with the information I have now.

11:16 AM

I hope the transit workers that are striking get a permanent pay cut as a result of this strike or are fired. The union and everyone involved with the union are incredability selfish.

11:19 AM

You all act like the TWU's demands are so unreasonable. All they're really asking for is to keep the benefits they have. You telling me you wouldn't get pissed if your boss cut your benefits?

11:19 AM

Nicky made comments about 'when your job ... next round of outsourcing...I hope you realize this is a power struggle' I'm in tech, and my job was outsourced. Prior to that, my pay was cut 10%. In the free market economy, I found another job - and a year later, although my pay didn't get cut, my health care costs went up and no raises were given. According to the NY state comptrollerm, the average NYC worker earns about $60K/yr. And this figure includes the Millionaire Wall Street folks. The Average MTA bus/train operator gets $63K/yr. The average NYC worker will never be able to retire by 55. Most dont get pensions but have to pay into a 401K. Wake up and recognize the world your now living in. I had supported the Union but after the MTA's latest proposal - and the Union's refusal to go to aribitration, and the facts above, there is no way I can support them - and I think as time goes on, you'll see less public support. What exactly is it you guys want. A clean system? Respect from 'those who spit in yor direction?' How are raises of 6% - 8%/year and these pension demands (for new workers) going to do that. And just to clarify - I'm actually fairly liberal on most issues and am by no means well off financially myself.

11:20 AM

I think this link on Craigslist says it all...
- Michael

11:20 AM

Riddle me this Batman....

If the TWU is entitled to raises because the MTA has a budget surplus this year... does that mean the TWU will take pay cuts and give back money during a year when the MTA has a budget deficit?

Your wages arent tied to the profits of the MTA... and YOU DONT WANT THEM TO BE... unless of course youd like to have them tied to the losses of the MTA in future years as well.

11:20 AM

THE LETTER SENT TO THE MTA
(because I know you're reading this blog)
Dear MTA Executives, Negotiators and Staffers,

It's true, I am SERIOUSLY inconvenienced by this transit strike. However, I also recognize the privileged position I am in as a decently paid New Yorker whose work is safe and satisfying. I am a communications professional who also understands the back and forth (mostly forth) wave of PR-dogma that is getting waved around in this argument.

I am writing today, however, as a New York City resident. I live uptown (west). I can't get to work today, and am lucky to be able to work from home today (although I'll have to find a way in to the office tomorrow).

I understand many people -- including most transit workers -- are not in this position. They have to get to work today no matter what, and are braving the cold to do so.

I think it is equally important to let you all know that MILLIONS OF US SUPPORT THE TWU EMPLOYEES!

Yes, we are inconvenienced. Some of us critically so.

However, this did not need to happen. Many of us understand that and know who holds the blame -- the MTA.

Time and again throughout this process Toussaint and the TWU postponed this inevitability, offering opportunity after opportunity for the MTA to negotiate in good faith.

Their demands are not that great. It is the nickel and diming you are doing with MTA employees that is hurting New Yorkers, not the TWU employees who are fighting for decent treatment.

IT IS TIME TO STOP NICKEL-AND-DIMING NEW YORKERS, MTA. Give the workers what they want. Those of us who travel on MTA trains and buses every day see how hard they work, and under what kind of deplorable conditions they must perform that service. Most MTA employees perform their duties admirably, and do so facing seriously tough circumstances.

MILLIONS OF NEW YORKERS are ready to turn their anger toward those who deserve it, toward those who have made this situation what it is -- the MTA.

Let go of the obvious greed ... compensate your employees and show the rest of us that our monthly MetroCard fees are going to a company that cares about its employees and about the city residents that it serves.

Thank you,
A Concerned Resident
New York, New York

11:23 AM

You TWU workers disgust me (and probably most of NYC right now). The benefits/options you're asking for is unheard of in most jobs... people are lucky to get 3% annually. Why should you people get paid more than teachers, police, and social workers? And you're complaining about having to pay ONE percent of health costs? Give us all a break, why are you better than anyone else? You dont even do your job that well, not to mention the education level needed to work at your job!

So you decide to strike and cripple the city in the busiest week of the year??? The TWU is so irresponsible and greedy I am so looking forward for the city to go after you. Whats funny about this is that even if you do get your 8% yearly raise, it is automatically gone when you have to pay for your fine that the city imposed on you for striking. Or if the union pays, welcome to bankruptcy.

You have NO sympathy from me or any of the other commuters who now must suffer for your selfishness and outrageous demands

here's a big f**k you the MTA and TWU! Get back to work, youre all a mess.

11:23 AM

You guys are morons. While people all over the country are getting laid off and having their benefits and salaries cut, they're actually offering you a raise. You have unprecedented job security, great benefits, and you walk out on the job when the city needs you most. I think all of you should be fired and your jobs given to those who would appreciate them better. I hope they fine the hell out of each and every one of you for striking. You all deserve a slap in the face.

11:26 AM

I suport The Union on this one. What I think some people are forgetting is that there is one (1) Billions (yes a billion with a b) dollars surplus that comes from off of the backs of these hard working people. Come on MTA make peace with the union and be fair.

11:27 AM

When the drooling slob who falls asleep in the token booth makes more than a teacher and goes on strike for more money, there is a problem.

When your sole job is to open and close doors on a subway, and you make more than the majority of people who ride your train, there is a problem.

When your commericals defending your illegal strike LIE about the reasons for your illegal strike, and you expect New Yorkers to sympathize with you, there is a problem.

That problem is the TWU, not the MTA and not each hard working NYC resident whose hard earned money pays the fares and taxes that pay your overpaid and uneducated asses. You're punishing the people. We will not support you. Enjoy losing two-days pay for each day that you strike. Nobody held a gun to your head to take this job and nobody is forcing you to keep it.

11:28 AM

I support the union.. No I am not part of one but I wish I was able to fight for benefits. My company offers NONE and I am a college graduate (Bachelors with experience) but I have to take what I can get right... Why should they be forced to stand in train stations int he middle of the night. Can you image being a woman (or man for that matter) standing in some of the most dangerous areas standing to "ASSIST" people.. come, a woman was raped on the platform of the G train a little while ago, remember that? Rememebr the guy that was stabbed to death as well... That's real safety right?

STRIKE AS LONG AS IT TAKES... but I better get my days back from the MTA for using us as hostages.. if some of you were a bit more eduacted you would se this is being run just like our gov't. The MTA and local gov't does not care that getting around has become a real hardship and just want to sue sue sue... once the TWU goes bankrupt and some workers leave.. what are they gonna do? Hire self training workers..

_IMHO_

11:29 AM

"Hard working people" my ass.

Most of these folks who work for the MTA would not know hard work if it snuck up to them and bit them in the arse.

The MTA is one of the laziest bunches of sloths in the country.

Bring on the scabs. These guys are done.

11:29 AM

No sympathy.

11:29 AM

Sorry. Correction. That should be $40k after taxes on the $60k salary. This ain't Sweden.

11:30 AM

To the uneducated, lazy, self-centered, greedy bastards that think that they deserve more money just because they have families to support and because theres a "surplus"... GO TO HELL!!! We all have bills to pay, and most of us earn the money to pay them. You TWA folks are demanding money for nothing, and EARLY RETIREMENT W/ PENSION!?!?! WTF? I invest my money. I don't spend it on crap that I don't need. I don't buy my kids the latest of everything. I pay for my own benefits too. If you can't afford to live on your pay, get a new job! Oh, I'm sorry. You don't know how to work for a living.
Riding busses and trains...woo hoo... Grow up. Take some responsibility for your own situation. Quit blaming others.

11:30 AM

I hope they fire all the idiotic MTA workers and the union. They are getting paid decent wages for a non-high skill jobs.

11:30 AM

TWU members should spend some time on www.nrtw.org, they might learn a thing or two that would open their eyes to what is actually happening, at their expense.

11:31 AM

Boycott Rocco DiSpritio. On his radio station today, he just called the transit workers lazy, uneducated, unskilled. And then called for all of the workers to be replaced by illegal mexican immigrants who "would do a better job"

11:31 AM

You guys are fucking douchebags. I saw old ladies and little kids walking in the cold today. Guess you were all too selfish to think of them.

The MTA tried to reach a compromise with you, but you are all too pigheaded and selfish.

I hope you all lose your jobs and end up out in the cold like you did to so many people today.

11:33 AM

I thought I would never see the day where my opinion of the teachers union would rise. However after the MTA unions selfish move I have to give the teachers union credit. When the teachers contract ran out thought they threatened to strike they never did. They kept working for two years while negotiations went on. Though I didn’t agree with their demands I respect the fact they kept working, like they should of.

The MTA Union could have followed the teacher’s path and kept working while negotiations went on no matter how long it took. Instead they walked off in an attempt extort the city by taking it hostage.

All I can say is we must not give into the MTA union. Thought it will be difficult we must tuff it out for the sake of future New Yorkers. I hope the Governor and Chairman of the MTA follow through with their threats the same way the MTA union followed through with theirs, fining and firing the workers.

11:34 AM

Strikes are the only real tool that unions have when it comes to contract negotiations. It is a shame that the city has taken that right away from them (without suffering huge fines). Teachers are allowed to strike (and they get leverage for that in talks). The MTA has been ripping the city off for years with bad service and constant fare rasies. Someone needs to stand up to them.... even if it means I have some walking to do.

11:35 AM

SHAME ON ALL OF YOU! YOU MAKE ENOUGH MOENY ALL READY. AND TO DO THIS AT THIS TIME OF YEAR IS AN ASSAULT ON ALL NEW YORKERS. YOU MAKE ME SICK!!!!!

11:36 AM

Greedy fucking Union, you are a bunch of F-cks if you cared about New Yorkers you would not have made us walk in the cold. You have the best benifits and you cry like babies, I would throw eggs at you if the police were not standing around your little cry aby protest sites.

11:39 AM

This can be a great thing for NY in the long run. In spite of the great inconvenience right now, we will find a way to work around this...we always do..remember 9/11.

Many of us are or will take vacation over the next 8-10 days and we will come up with real solutions, like the typical Americans we are.

At that time, we may find out just how much we don't need these transit workers, or perhaps we'll find out we can find others at half the price. With twice as many workers, we will have back-ups and eliminate so many of the sick days.

I just hope Mayor Bloom and Gov Patak have the cajoles to bust this union once and for all. They are totally out of touch with the real world when it comes to retirement, health care, pensions etc, that the private sector has to deal with.

Let's give them a reality check!

11:39 AM

The MTA is not a multi-billion dollar corporation with deep pocket, as it's been portrayed. It's a public benefit corporation whose surpluses, in the end, are our surpluses and whose deficits are our deficits. If we let pension and healthcare costs spiral out of control, we're all going to be forced to pay for the bailout. It's funny to see Democrats who (appropriately) hyperventilate about the Bush Administration's deficits be so relaxed about problems that, if left unchecked, are going to bankrupt the MTA and cost our kids thousands of dollars when they grow up.

We can't have it every which way. We can't have low fares, good service, clean tracks, and all the rest while paying workers more and more and more. Grownups have to make difficult choices.

The union's been given a reasonable offer. We, the people of the city, pay WTU workers' salaries, and--sorry--you just don't deserve that much more. We've got lots of priorities, not only your pocketbooks.

11:39 AM

Mr. Toussaint you are an Asshole or the highest order, who can't even speak english properly.
You have jepordized the lives of my employees who have to walk across the bridge. You are disrupting the lives of millions of People during the holiday season. Especially for the people who can't afford not to work!

11:40 AM

i think the mta is being extremely greedy! what millionaire companies give their employees 8% salary increase per year??? are you NUTS???

11:40 AM

We are human beings. Some of us are old, some of us are not healthy, all of us are scared. The union will lose this because the union only cares about it's leaders ego. There are tears flowing in the streets and I hope you are happy. Think about everytime the bus driver pulls away from the person running for the bus. Think of everytime a tranist worker is nasty to a customer who just wants information and you will understand why they can put others lives at risk. It is no suprise that vile people do vile things. You are not more important than the lives you are ruining. If there was a way to put all of you in jail that would be the best soloution.

11:42 AM

the city should give them a 5 year deal for whatever they want and then after that contract is up: fire them all, automate the whole shit, hire 20,000 more cops to protect it, 3,000 people to service it and it would still cost less than keeping it the way it is...

11:42 AM

This is to Roger Toussaint, you are no Jimmy Hoffa. It seems to me you called this strike to benefit your own ego. How do you reasonably turn down 10.5% over three years? How do you make "disciplinary actions" a crucial part of a negotiation? You even managed to get Martin Luther King added to the holiday package, and still you aren't satisfied? It sounds as if the TWU needs better leadership. Unions can be a force for good when led with wisdom, the opposite is also true. What you have done with this strike is essentially accelerate the downsizing through automation of your membership. The MTA had designs in the past to replace workers with technology, now the wheels have been greased, so to speak. What incredibly poor timing on your part, to strike at the holiday season, you have lost sympathy from some who would have supported you. And please do not mistake the posts that support your cause with the riding public. Pro-worker, anti-capitalist are not necessarily your friends simply because you have a common enemy at the moment. Remember the membership will still have to work with the same supervisors when and if they go back to work, don't vilify the MTA as your new found friends want you to do. Anarchy only works for the unemployable. They have nothing to contribute and will tear down those who do. Accept the contract and in three years work on the rest. Unless this is your unions last stand? Then all I have to say is "Fuck you very much and have a nice day."

11:42 AM

4 things.... que idiotas!!!

1. If they all get fired we still won't have service, so that means we're back to square one, walking.

2. They are now walking and commuting just like everyone else, there is not special bus and train just for them, LOL.

3. If they are overly fined I am sure quite a few will quit before they are fined too much and try to come back later.

4. If they are forced back to work by the MTA in court the service will most likely be so shitty you would rather walk!

_IMHO_

11:42 AM

Why is the TWU spending tons of money in advertising instead of negotiating?

Mmmhh, maybe the Union has a little too much money in the bank, that will of course change after all the fines ... hehe cant wait to see a bankrupt TWU.

And you union scumbags, go ahead and strike for a week, 10 days ... as much as you want. The more you strike the more money you lose, and more support you lose.

Bullies, thats what you all are.

11:43 AM

Can I get a job driving a train for $60,000+ a year where I get a non-performance based 8% salary increases and can retire at age 55?

It's all about greed, which is the middle name of unions.

11:43 AM

Get off your already overpaid asses and get to work. How damn hard is it to give people tickets and operate freaking trains that operate themselves.

$47,000-$55,000 a year in average annual salary and you people are whining? You all suck.

11:44 AM

Very hypocritical of the mass media to tote the corporate line that the strike is not in keeping with the spirit of Christmas when Govenor Pataki's negotiating tactics are not very CHRISTIAN!!!

11:44 AM

Automate the trains!

11:44 AM

Who is being selfish on this one?

Services depend upon workers. People depend upon services. Workers depend upon pay and dignity. In democratic countires workers have the right to collective bargaining. The United States of America has been built upon strong workers, not on the backs of fat cats like Bloomberg.

The people depend upon the workers receiving decent pay and dignity. If they cannot collectively bargain, they do not have dignity. If they are payed more than others, it does not mean they receive fair pay - it might mean that other workers aren't receiving fair pay either. And it is no wonder other workers are underpaid when collective bargaining has been nuetred by the wealthy, supported by the ignorant. The anti-labor culture which permiates America is disguisting and is destroying our economy. No doubt we should be making connections to the outsourcing of jobs, being replaced with lower paying, lower respecting McJobs and Walmart jobs.

For too long the people of the country have stood by and let the economy run by fat cats who make exhorbitent profits over the abuse of labor.

There is no doubt, the strike is going to be hard on New York, hard on the commuters and there are going to be serious problems for many people. But those who think they themselves are more important than the workers who provide that service, think for a moment, think who has the power, the money, and the real solutions. Pressure the city if you are upset. It is their arrogance and abuse which has lead to this situation.

No worker wants to be on strike, especially leading up to Christmas, drastic actions are a response to drastic proble,s

11:44 AM

To educate those in the Union. This $1B you so much want a part of for years to come. It's a one time deal due to real estate sales to raise money for capital improvements. Taking advantage of high real estate prices and low interest rates, the MTA sold real estate holdings to deal with current and future deficits - as well as fund the currently underfunded pension plans (its better than defaulting like some of the airlines are doing). Do a search and you'll see plenty of articles related to the real estate transactions. The MTA had to sell assets to cover other expenses and for capital improvement - which is much needed.

11:45 AM

get a life... strike all you want if you're going to be asking such insane demands. times have change so live with it and get over it. the last offer from the mta is already a lot more than what other people in the city gets. a little inconvinience is nothing at all compared to what NYorkers have gone through already.

11:45 AM

It is unfortunate that the majority of the members of the transit union do not realize how fortunate they are to receive the benefits and compensation that they do. Because of their greed, they are costing this city and its residents millions of dollars a day. Each and everyone of those on strike should be ashamed of themselves

11:46 AM

In response to the people who say that they would die to be in a job position that provides the benefits being offered to the TWU workers by the MTA, I believe they should take heed and notice the snowballing trend to take away ALL benefits from workers in the US.

The TWU is one of the only unions actually fighting for workers in order to preserve Pensions and Health Insurance - shouldn't every single worker in the US fight for those rights?

Why have we fallen for the Corporate and right-wing Government line that we can't afford those basic benefits? Why should only CEOs, upper management, and politicians get the best of the great abundant wealth that exists in this country?

ALL Americans deserve a good pension, health care and a salary that keeps up with the cost of living.

11:46 AM

Apparently the members of this union never read "How to Win Friends and Influence People". Am not surprised.

That being said the union has handed its very existance over. I suggest you take a good hard look at what happened to PATCO, boys and girls. All that needs to be done is to declare the NYC public transit system a necessity, give 'em an ultimatum to get back to work within 24 hours or they will bust the union and hire new drivers, etc. Then the TWU can march all they want and no one will care except the union, the Communists/Marxists/Maoists and the Democrats who will try to use the situation to make some political hay. The vast majority of people will not care if the union is busted for they picked the wrong week to strike to generate any sympathy for them.

11:47 AM

Hey we all work and are screwed by our emlpoyers, it's the American way. This strike is nothing more than a publicity stunt and a greedfest. Union employees want an increase that is more than 99% of the people in this country get on an annual basis. Stop being greedy, suck it up and GET BACK TO WORK!!!!

11:48 AM

Hey MTA workers:
Ever hear of free will??? It's the ability to choose to remain in a postion where the compensation structure is laid out...don't like it - feel free to quit at anytime you like - just like the rest of the free world - you are unskilled labor, with negligible education levels and are properly compensated based on what I've read on this site - this is capitalism, not union endorsed socialism - when I hate my job or feel undercompensated I switch jobs - who has a JOB FOR LIFE...this isn't 1950- a guaranteed pension- are you kidding me- NO ONE has guaranteed pensions- who pays 0% for health-care benefits - NO ONE - I pray laws are enforced and this cartel is broken

11:48 AM

Hey guys this is Bono.
Do you know all of Africa has AIDS? AIDS! and you are fucking striking like a bunch of limp dicked pussies. I hope you all go to Africa and get gang raped by 4 large black men with advanced HIV.

-Go to hell where you will be raped each night by six dozen child soldiers

11:48 AM

Why hasn't the TWU asked for a show of solidarity with other city unions? Unbelievably, the UFT has a table on the Brooklyn Bridge, handing out coffee to people breaking the strike by walking to work! By not asking for the people's support, you are alienating them and forcing their alignment with the MTA. No wonder the labor movement in this country is dead! I wish you luck in your struggle, but you're going about it the wrong way! -Susan Mullen

11:48 AM

Just convict them (they ARE breaking the law) and fire them for cause.

Oh wait, they're in a union. They could be convicted of murder and get a pay raise.

Never mind.

11:49 AM

I thought slavery was over, or are we back in the year 9150?
WHO WANTS TO WORK AT 62, IN THE UNDERGOUND DUSTY SYSTEM?!!!!
PLEASE! I DON'T WANT TO RIDE WITH AN TIRED OL'62, BY THIS TIME COUGHING ELDERY. DO YOU?
DID Y GET IT RIGHT, DO YOU GET TO PAY YOUR BENEFITS WITH YOUR RAISE? WHOO HOO WHAT KIND OF A RAISE IS THAT?

11:49 AM

Roger Toussaint, you fucking coward. How do you expect dignity and respect on the job when you essentially shut down New York?

And for all the MTA workers who selfishly walked, demanding respect, fuck you you lazy, fat, uneducated fucks. I'll respect you when you man up and think for yourselves and do your fucking job.

11:49 AM

Listen you fucking Palesitinian Fags.
Why Don't you go to Iran or something instead of Striking. This is worse than the Holocaust. I hope that you are walking to a picket line and a large black man suicide bombs you with their cock.

Die you gentile faggots

11:50 AM

I just hope that the TWU eventually realizes what it has: better pay, benefits, and working conditions than most New Yorkers. I make less than the average MTA employee and I'm not guarateed any raise. Plus I'm still paying off my bachelor's degree.
And yet, I walked 3.5 miles to work in the cold this morning. You cannot garner sympathy from the public when are asking for more than most of them ever expect from the jobs that you bring them to and from everyday.
I hope you're ashamed of yourselves for your greediness in season whose spirit is supposed to be giving.
Thanks a lot.

11:50 AM

I love it when these guys use this argument:

"This isn't just a strike for New York's transit workers, it's a strike for all of us. We suffer nationwide from an erosion of the benefits that our parents and our grandparents took for granted."

My answer to that is simply: STFU!!

When you greedy bastards get back to work, I still have to pay into my healthcare, my pension and retire art 65!

You're not doing it for US, your doing it for YOURSELVES. Stop trying to bullshit me and get back to work

11:51 AM

LisTEn MtA

U R SUCH FAGS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

11:51 AM

You should be ashamed of yourselves. Unions have no place in this country anymore. Their time has passed.

11:51 AM

Unbelievable. I can not believe how the MTA, TWU has failed us New Yorkers. TWU has NO pride in thier work, and feel NO social responsibility for their actions, this is the MTA's fault, management should have helped to ingrain this. Teachers in the boroughs have not had a contract for years, they continued teaching. A Doctore would not stop helping people if he didnt have a contract, your actions affect 7 MILLION people. My feelings, thhe city, MTA, and transit workers should all be sued in a massive Class action suit, to recoup all the money retailers are loosing, and the added expenses people are incurring. To the TWU workers, I hope you have to pay EVERY penny of fines incurred by the Taylor act, in my eyes, you are a disgrace to New York

11:51 AM

Who do you transit workers think you are anyway? No one has the right to retire at 55, it is a luxury for the priviledged! The ladies I share my office with are both in their 60s and don't seem to have plans to retire anytime soon. If you do wish to retire in what is honestly the prime of your lives, I don't see what's so unreasonable about paying 6% towards pension. I don't even have a pension at my job, so I put 10% into a high yield savings account, which I believe is pretty run-of-the-mill common sense. I normally support unions, but your demands are outrageous and your actions are reckless. I certainly hope the city throws the book at each and every one of you; surely you have it coming to you.

11:51 AM

Thanks a lot, you selfish jerks. Yeah, OK, $1 billion surplus. I hear you on that one. I don't have any sympathy for the MTA either. But as you claim that the MTA is disrespecting you, TWU -- and the MTA -- are disrepecting the most important person in all of this -- THE CUSTOMER. Still, striking is for cowards. As pointless as violence. Try to educate yourselves a little better.

11:52 AM

You're ridiculous, retirement at age 55 is a luxury, most of us will have to wait until 67 or 68 for full benefits, why in hell are you entitled to retire at 55? Get back to work you spoiled brats

11:52 AM

If anyone would like to contact Roger and let him know how you feel about this strike, here's his address:

Roger Toussaint
9 Prospect Ave
Brentwood, NY 11717-2404
(631) 273-5641

11:53 AM

So the TWU members are fighting for 'compensation' or 'rewards' for hard work? Doesn't that imply that all of you would actually have to put in a hard days work first? I have yet to see that at all. You should be grateful for the salaries and benefits that you have for what you do, and let's not glorify your positions. Seriously, you drive trains, buses (badly, I might add) refill metrocards and do nothing short of give attitude to anyone that approaches you. I sincerely hope that all of you get fined to the fullest extent that you can be. I hope that your little stunt will bankrupt your union, at least that way, we can be assured that you will all just go away and be replaced by others who aren't afraid to work. Because (and yes, this means you, "pissed off conductor") YOU ARE ALL EXPENDABLE.

11:54 AM

http://wcbstv.com/topstories/local_story_354094519.html

(CBS) NEW YORK The international arm of the Transport Workers Union is stunned and angry that its Local 100, representing New York subway and bus workers, turned down a contract offer from management and ordered its members to walk off their jobs, CBS2 News has learned.

Sources within other large public employee unions tell CBS2 reporter Marcia Kramer that the TWU's international leadership is considering taking over the local and seeking a settlement with the Metropolitan Transportation Authority.

11:58 AM

ALL Americans deserve a good pension, health care and a salary that keeps up with the cost of living.

I have that. And I work for a company that does not have any unions nor do the people who work there want one. I also live in a right to work state where taxes and cost of living are low because we do not have unions jacking up the cost of everything. Everyday I see license plates from New York, Pennsylvania, Michigan, Massachusetts as I drive down my street. New neighbors who have left those states behind because they can get better jobs woth better pay here and own homes they could not dream of owning back where they came from.

11:58 AM

The TWU said that there would be a strike unless the MTA proposed a more accetable offer. The MTA responded by putting out a more generous package, and rather than counter-offer the TWU went on strike. Roger Toussaint, the head of the union, has asked for public patience and support, and in turn is expecting the striking workers to be protected by city police officers. Here's a few of the million things wrong with this scenario:
1)On average, NYC police officers make less than TWU workers, and have to put their lives on the line to earn it. Furthermore, a starting officer will make less in his/her first year than a subway cleaner.
2) The TWU points to a budget surplus and holiday discounts as reasons that their wages and benefits should be increased FOR THE ENTIRETY OF A NEW CONTRACT. The TWU is blatantly overlooking simple economic rules, mainly that surplus this year does not mean there will be an indefinite surplus. Furthermore, the TWU asks for you, the riding public, to support them. But they also are pissed that you got discounts for one month of commuting after years of fare increases.
3) A starting attorney for the Manhattan District Attorney's office makes about $8,000 less than the average base pay for a TWU worker. Oh, and the attorney had to go through a combined 7 years at least of undergraduate and law school work to get the job.
4) Most people remember 9/11 and wish for a city-wide crisis never to happen again. TWU workers are willing to create a city-wide contract a minute after their contracts expire.
5) TWU workers are asking for an 8% raise on salary per year. On a base salary of $55,000, on a 3 year contract, they will be making just short of $70,000 in 2008. With no college experience necessary, I might add.

11:58 AM

Like so many American workers, I have no pension plan, no healthcare plan, and I have not received any raise be it 8% or less.
But I have enough respect for myself and for the work that I do that I get up every day and go to work.
Transit workers want respect? Try respecting yourself first and get back to work.

11:59 AM

I just think you all should have waited until after the holidays, specially if you were going to do an illegal strike. You would be in a better position to bargain that way. I hope all those busses are parked in handicaped spaces, because youre all retarded!

11:59 AM

May part of the contract require each and every one of you to stand underneath that disgusting drip on the east end of the Queens bound platform at Fifth Avenue & 53rd Street for two hours.

It has only been doing that for over four years. Then someone came to fix it by putting some metal sheets underneath so it drips on a different part of the platform.

And don't get me started about it taking over three years to re-tile the N/R 28th street station.

And that's just the capital improvement side of things.

Both sides are meatheads, but it would be great if Pataki had the testosterone to give you yutzes the Air Traffic Controller treatment.

Losers.

12:00 PM

You make 62k a year and you want a 8% increase - nobody is going to get this in the private sector. If you are unhappy with your job do what everyone else does - QUIT.

12:00 PM

You know what you guys saying that these workers are the true salt of the Earth have a point. I would write more but I have to walk 5 miles to help counsel the mentally ill for less than half of what they make to drive a bus. But no, I totally feel like they have every right in the world to gripe. You know they only were offered 10 percent over the next three years, .5 percent increase in pension and health benefits and retirement at age 55. But they are totally getting screwed. Plus way to take care of the future generations while they all get fired and lose their cards for missing too many days during their probationary period. In addition you guys are gonna lose your checkoffs. That means no money going to dues from your paychecks. In your strength of solidarity for the future you actually cost the next generation any shot at being able to be part of a healthy union. Those who don't get canned first.

12:01 PM

Your "union" has just signed it's death warrant. You don't care one bit about anyone, let alone handicapped people like my son who had to walk 2 1/2 hours this morning to work because of your greed. Unions have long ago served their purpose and so yours will go the way of the rest of them. I hope all the curses on you during this Christmas season.

12:01 PM

Evidence of why raises are justified!

http://newyork.craigslist.org/mnh/rnr/118832386.html

12:02 PM

I hope you all go to jail. your hurting alot of people for what? so you wont have to pay a little more like all the rest of us. and now riders will have to pay more for you to get higher salaries

12:02 PM

You sumbitch! I here on jihad and just today was my big boom for subway! I now never get with 72 virgins! You corksarkers!

12:03 PM

you should all be fired - like they did with the air traffic controllers.

12:04 PM

I think the transit strike rocks! I had a pleasant walk to work today (15 minutes), and the office is nearly empty. It's quiet and I'm getting my work done. The streets are less congested, people are working from home, and it's totally chill.

Gives us all time to reflect on things -- the only people bitching are those who want to go shopping -- to consume even more, spend more money they don't have on shit they don't need.

Spend some time in your neighborhood, patronize a local store, play with your kids, read a book -- in other words RELAX.

Hope this lasts until January!

12:05 PM

Pataki should fire every one of you shitbags.

12:05 PM

new york
new york
a hell of a town...

I can't wait to leave this God Forsaken place... only here would a group of greedy, malcontents do such a thing in the winter, at the holiday season

it was obviously planned to hit NYC at a crucial time and your bluff was called, so now you push the envelope... great - so now what?

just a few more months and I can kiss this crappy town goodbye

12:06 PM

I am a single working mother who relies on the subways as does everyone in my family. This morning we bundled up. Some of us got rides, some of us had to walk. In my opinion a small price to pay.

I support the TWU struggle for a living wage. Just because we all do not have that ( I know I sure as hell don't) doesn't mean that the Transit Workers should't have the right to fight for it.

The City, State and MTA as an organization are trying to play the workers against the people of NYC when the people of NYC are the workers and the workers are the people of NYC.

People need to get over their privilege.

The union members aren't having a party. They are losing two days wages for every one day of striking.
This is not something they wanted either, it's something that they had to do.

The striking workers have nothing but my support.

Pa'lante hermanos y hermanas

12:06 PM

http://wcbstv.com/topstories/local_story_354094519.html

Your own leadership doesn't even agree with you!!

12:07 PM

AMERICA is about FREEDOM.
The FREEDOM to quit if you don't like your job.
The FREEDOM to find a job that pays more.
The FREEDOM to start your own company. Be your own CEO.
AMERICANS deserve FREEDOM.
You deserve what you earn, if you don't like it go somewhere else.
NEW YORKERS don't DESERVE a strike, life is already difficult here. Mr. Toussaint is a terrorist and should be arrested!

12:07 PM

You bunch of moochers - I hope you get coal tossed at you later today by NON-UNIONIZED hard working people that follow

the old American way: WORK HARD, TAKE PRIDE IN WHAT YOU DO, WORK YOUR WAY UP TO THE TOP.

The people that need transit most are not the rich - they are the one's working more than one job so they can make a better life for themselves. They make less than you and have no "beni's" as you leeches call it. Those hard workers walking to work today are NOT asking for HANDOUTS. Today you hurt them.

You all do deserve one final handout - THE PINK SLIP.

12:07 PM

This is ridiculous. You guys already get to retire with full benefits at 55, unheard of in most jobs, and for a while you wanted to turn it down to 50! You won't give an inch on raising the retirement age with full benefits, even though the average life span continues to get longer. Essentially what you're asking for is to have people not work, on the public dollar, for between 20 and 35 years. Plus you only pay 2% out to your pension fund?! Reality check, nobody else has pensions anymore. Normally, I'm a big union supporter, but this is absurd. Your demands are completely unrealistic, they would hurt the future fiscal welfare of the transit system, and you're greedy strike is causing millions of dollars in economic damage.

Somebody should bring in the Pinkertons or some scabs and this the way it deserves to be ended.

12:08 PM

.....and a strike is going to get you respect?!!!!!! The numbers say NO!

12:08 PM

SJ I Repeat:

Are they wrong? Are you one of the lucky few in this country who has health benefits? And how much have they gone up in the last year? How much has your contribution to them increased?

Every chance they get, companies are screwing with benefits, screwing up pensions, increasing the cost of your health insurance. What's wrong with somebody finally standing up and saying "No"?

12:10 PM

My mother is a public school teacher and went without a contract for months. In fact, over the 22 years my mother has worked for NYC public schools, she has worked through many months without a contract. Teachers never even considered striking. They continued to do their job while their union reps negotiated a contract. I fail to understand why the TWU cannot do the same.

12:10 PM

Someone wrote:

-Can I get a job driving a train
-for $60,000+ a year where I get
-a non-performance based 8% salary
-increases and can retire at age
-55?

Dont forget the sleeping on the job.

Since the subway's cannot be outsourced, lets provide working visas for illegal immigrants living in NYC who would be happy having a well paid job like this with all its benefits.

12:10 PM

I walked an hour and a half to work today but I'm with the TWU 100%!

Some assholes here think that because some people can't retire until 65 or later that everyone apparently should be made to suffer in the same way. Spread the punishment around, is that the idea? Does it occur to you that maybe the reason wages are stagnant almost across the board in this country, that wages increasingly trail behind the cost of living, that increasingly we're a country of the working poor - that maybe one reason for all of this is decreased union presence? I say, good for anyone who goes against this trend. If it wasn;t for unions in the first place most people wouldn't enjoy many of the things they do. You shouldn't take that lightly.

And you think the job of a transit worker is just an easy job for a bunch of lazy people? 7 million people are dependent on these very people you run into the ground. 34,000 workers you seem to think amount to a bunch of whiners. Well, they've just shown how important they are.

Some of you would apparently have us return to the dark ages. Find another country, why don't you.

La Mala is on the mark!!

12:10 PM

these workers are striking for a large raise?...the trains are electric...they push a button to close and open the doors and to start the train...or they sit in the booth and grunt when someone asks a question and they already make between $47k-$55k a year...and half the time they dont even grunt politely.

You guys want sympathy, try being a more courteous to customers whom you are supposed to be helping. You want public support? You make more than I do for doing less.

Instead of trying to take part of that $1B surplus to put into your pockets, why not fight to use that surplus to cut fares, clean up some of the nasty old stations, implement technologies to reduce energy consumption so the rates can come down. You want support from the public that you already make largely more than double income per year? Do something that supports the public instead of supporting yourselves.

12:11 PM

This is a lot like terrorism. This strike is effecting more people than the attacks by terrorists on 9/11. I think the people of NY and the United States should stand up and fight this and every other Union trying to ruin our good country's economy. This is an absolute outrage and it should be delt with by the American people, the same way we deal with all terrorism. ZERO TOLERANCE!

12:12 PM

To the FREEDOM guy:

America is the place where LABOR has the FREEDOM to STRIKE.

LABOR is the SOURCE OF ALL WEALTH.

If you think subway workers are so unnecessary, why are you on here complaining? if we really didn't need them, then we wouldn't even notice this strike.

12:12 PM

Unions Suck, there is nothing more to be said.

12:14 PM

Hurray!! Hopefully the international union will take over from the local idiots. End the strike!!!!

12:15 PM

"If you think subway workers are so unnecessary, why are you on here complaining? if we really didn't need them, then we wouldn't even notice this strike."

OK, genius, no one is saying that we don't need the trains. We're saying that the selfish jerks who are striking are expendable (that means they can easily be replaced, in case you don't have your dictionary handy).

Let's fire the morons who don't want to work for a living, and hire some people who do.

12:16 PM

This blog is hilarious. Definitely made my day in the midst of alot of work!!

12:16 PM

AngryCommuter said...



You're asking for more? Let's see, the average transit worker:

-Makes between $47,000-$55,000 a year.
-Pays absolutely nothing towards benefits.
-Is able to retire at 55.

You bums have a lot of nerve. You have such as sweetheart deal that does not exist anymore. Why? Because you're a union. I wish I had someone fighting for me so I wouldn't have to pay a portion of my paycheck towards benefits. I wish I could retire at 55. I'm barely making the starting average and I haven't had a raise in two years. Every city agency has had to make layoffs, except for the MTA. When I get on the subway, there's a guy whose only job is to wave a flashlight when the train is about to leave. That's ridiculous.

The $1 billion surplus should be used to push back the impending fare hikes. I'm going to be hit hard, yeah, but what about the single mother who works two jobs just to make ends meet? It'll kill her. When will somebody stand up for US? WE'RE the ones who should be walking out, not you.

The MTA is horribly mismanaged and poorly run, I agree, but in this case, they are 100% right. A more than fair deal was put on the table but, because Roger Toussaint is a greedy asshole, the TWU walked.

You people are nothing but terrorists who are holding the city up with your demands. And because of you, people are going to die because emergency vehicles won't get through. Blood will be on your hands.

You people are nothing but a bunch of bums.

12:17 PM

ANd another note about mortagaing the future. You do realize that if the cough up more for the TWU now that the defecit will be even bigger in 2009 and they will have to fire half tf the new guard anyway because of lack of seniority.. its called a slow consistant apporach. As opposed to saying that you are fighting for the future and continuing the battle for benefits that benfit those in this generation why not really fight for the future and design a plan in which the increases are guaged for a long term increase. Or did Toussaint not think about that while he was driving his benz to the grand hyatt.

12:17 PM

stay strong TWU! NYC supports you!

12:18 PM

Zero tolerance guy! HAHAHAHA.

You're not American, you're a fascist. Plenty of countries would be glad to take you in. Fightning for justice is the American way, or it is at least one strain of our history that we should be proud of.

I've actually always found MTA employees to be helpful. Try being courteous yourself instead of treating them like dirt.

And labor is indeed the source of all wealth.

12:18 PM

I feel bad for the TWU workers. When the strike is over, they are really going to get pissed on, spit on, yelled at, and disrespected.

I hope they are happy with their Union leaders who have brought the fury of the public on them.

12:19 PM

Why do I keep reading.. who knows... maybe because I am practically alone in the office... Well do any of you idiots that hate the workers so much even know... THERE IS A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN the MTA and the TWU... MTA is run by TWU workers... so you that are writing you hate the MTA for striking seem very hypocritical because the MTA is the organization suing the TWU to go back to work... you all make my day brighter and warmer...

_IMHO_ (always)

12:20 PM

You fucking TWU slobs are typical lazy, greedy union scum.

12:21 PM

angrycommuter wrote: "I wish I had someone fighting for me so I wouldn't have to pay a portion of my paycheck towards benefits. I wish I could retire at 55. I'm barely making the starting average and I haven't had a raise in two years."

Why take your anger out on other working class people? The point shouldn't be to bring everyone down to your level, but to raise other working class people to their level. You unwittingly make the argument that unions need to make a comeback in this country.

12:21 PM

While New York city's police officer's have a truly good reason to strike (compare your wages to theirs), they do not. Why? Because they know that people are relying on them and they take that responsibility more seriously than an extra percentage point on their wage bumps.

Certainly you of the TWU 100 are not as important to the city as the men and women of the NYPD, but nonetheless, as shown today, millions of people are relying on you to carry on their own lives. Your jobs are not difficult, yet through the union system you earn fantastic remuneration and benefits. I am no union buster, but this is a poor example of its ability to produce benefits for its members. It amounts to blackmail.

Basically, I hope Cardozo is successful in his suit and the TWU 100 will have to pay excessive fines for this irresponsibility and blatant disrespect for NYS law. Where do you think the money to pay the fines will come from?

12:23 PM

Let's be fair to the TWU (puppet) worker. (but not for long)

Someone publish the union delegates/officials salaries.

Then you union workers (puppets) may want to protest the UNION and throw their asses out.

Their salaries and benefits are even greater than the upper-middle class. And for what? Rip you union people off and screw us all every few years.

Look at history - unions are dying, the companies that they are squeezing the blood from are closing.

GM pays more for union benefits for retirees and future employees than they do for auto parts for new cars.

Small businesses contribute more to the American economy than the large companies. And guess what, they are non union.

Even welfare people have to do some work now in NYC.

Time for reform.

Fire all the TWU workers. All you losers in the union should sue your delegates for their salary.

Government - hire people that want to work. Let them pay a portion of their helth care (like the rest of America). Provide the workers with a 401K plan so that they can invest their own money - not the taxpayer money.

America is not socialist - get out there and work.

And in NYC it's SURVIVAL OF THE FITTEST.

As Trump would say "You're Fired"

12:23 PM

First of all, being a transit worker is a hell of a lot more dangerous than being a cop -- take a look at the fatality rates. Being a cop is one of the easiest and safest jobs in the city. Transit workers deserve more money and more respect.

For those of you who are whining that you make less than transit workers -- right, that's the point. They make more because they're willing to fight for it. Why not take their struggle as example, instead of blaming them for standing up for themselves?

Who really wins if the TWU gets crushed? Will you automatically get a raise? No, the MTA will just pocket the money, and yet another good-paying city job will go down the tubes. But if the TWU gets a good contract, it sets a standard for wages and benefits in New York.

This is a union town. Thank you TWU for reminding us what that means.

12:24 PM

You sumbitch! I here on jihad and just today was my big boom for subway! I now never get with 72 virgins! You corksarkers!

I hope all the idiots at the TWU who thought their strike would "bring New York to its knees" had a chance to read this blog post earlier in the thread.

First, to the anonymous guy/gal who wrote it, the sarcasm is brilliant. If you arent a professional writer you should be. It is the best post on this page and one I can only wish I would have made myself.

Second, to the TWU, even in the face of your idiotic antics that have no support from customers, citizens, your own union or anyone else... New Yorkers are resilient enough to post jokes and laugh at you.

When you all get fined and fired we will be laughing even harder.

12:24 PM

I hope Mayor Bloomberg takes a lesson from Ronald Reagan and FIRES all of you!

12:25 PM

A lot of people are venting their anger at the lazy floor sweepers and token booth attendants. Which is very understandable.

But there's a lot of other TWU workers behind the scenes that we rarely see: ground traffic control, engineers and technicians. These guys are the true heart of the system.

Their jobs are very complicated; they keep the trains from smashing into each other. If you had an inkling of what these people do, you'd change your mind in a heartbeat.

Or take a look at those workers who fix track problems in a few hours. They're literally one step away from the third rail, which is certain death.

And for subway conductors, consider that they're underground most of the time. They are exposed to a lot of occupational hazards, such as ear-damaging noise levels, poisonous lead, soot and asbestos. They can't socialize with other workers around a water cooler. They can't make personal calls. It's a very tedious job.

Because it's so tedious, nobody wants to do it. Throw in those occupational hazards, and it's even less desirable. Add on top of that the city's dependence on the sytem.


So how much should they get paid?
TEDIOUS + HAZARDOUS + DEPENDENCE = WORTH

It's basic free-market principles. The TWU should get paid more because their service is very valuable. It doesn't matter how "easy" some might think their jobs are, because the value is what counts. And New York values its subway a LOT.

Think about how many times you've personally been helped by a third grade teacher or a cop. Seriously, it's not that often. Then think about how many times you ride a subway train.

12:25 PM

Retire at 55!!!?

12:26 PM

Let's see:

Minimal education required, $50,000 per year average salary, only a 2% contribution to retirement and retire at 55. Did I miss anything?

I know many good, hardworking and honest people that would walk across the U.S. to beg for a job like that.

TW Local 100 members, you really ought to be thankful for what you have and ashamed of what you've done.

12:26 PM

My loathing for public sector unions knows no bounds, but I will say, Congratulations! your selfish action is merely hastening the day when the Subway system will be completely automated.

Already ticket booths "staffed" by rude and incomprehensible morons are being replaced by convenient mahines. Soon the trains and switches will also be run by computers - it's been done in a lot of other cities, and will soon come to NY. All that will be left will be cleaning and maintenace which can be contracted out to private non-union firms.

All this strike will do is to speed up that process - which is all to the good. Do you really think that the cut-throat 21st century global economy can afford non-amiable morons pulling a couple of levers for $65k per annum and then retiring at 55 on a glold-plated pension? Get real - you are all dinosaurs and the tar pits are closing in - and this strike just demonstrates how and why we can do without you.

Keep up the good work.

12:26 PM

Good for you, TWU!

I say kick the MTA right in the balls. I support you!

12:26 PM

I hope this strike to leads to mass firings of transit workers. We're paying too much money to a bunch of ungrateful people who do menial things like pushing door buttons and making change. ENOUGH. The railroad clerks can be replaced by vending machines. Heck, the vending machines at least say "thank you" after you give them money. And as for safety, someone sitting a glass both yakking on the phone all day doesn't make me feel any safer. Conductors? Eliminate as many as possible. I'll take my chances with one-person train operation. Retrofit the older cars so they can run with one person, too. If you're concerned with crime, use the money for more cops.

12:26 PM

Okay, next person who compares it to terrorism is going to find out what it's like to be on the receiving end of an internet bitch-slap.

12:27 PM

While I agree that workers (not just this union - but ALL workers) should be entitled to decent benefits and a solid retirement as well as wages that will allow them to get ahead rather than "just make ends meet"... I also feel that this strike only serves to punish the public who depend on them. The MTA doesn't give a rat's behind about the public and it could care less about the lost revenue since it can collect from you all later on. (Hence - the two days pay fine for every one day of striking???) Maybe, it would hurt the MTA a little more where it counts if they continue to pay operating costs (such as wages, gas, electricity, etc.) while the workers still operate the buses and trains... BUT LET THE RIDERS ON FOR FREE.? Think about it... the public getting free rides, the workers at least still getting a paycheck (instead of fines) but the MTA still paying out all its operating costs WITHOUT INCOME.

THAT'S WHAT WOULD HURT THE MTA... and not punish the millions of people who depend on the transportation. (IE - workers, consumers, local businesses, etc.)

THINK PEOPLE - THINK!
There is a better way!

12:27 PM

I suspect a lot of people posting here don't live in NYC. They seem to think that 40-55K a year is a lot of money in NYC. It's a living wage, yeah, but with a family it isn't much more than that.

Uh, would you prefer everyone to be poor? And would you prefer the hidden costs of that: hunger, crime, etc.

GO TWU!!!!

12:27 PM

I've actually always found MTA employees to be helpful. Try being courteous yourself instead of treating them like dirt.

Actually, I'm always perfectly nice to them, and they snap in my face. My first time in New York?

Me: How do I get to NYU?
Them: *mumble*
Me: Excuse me?
Them: LADY! I SAID A, C, AND E DOWNTOWN. GOT IT???

Jee. Zus.


Why take your anger out on other working class people?

Since when was $60k a year, which would go up to $80k in a couple years if they get their way, working class?

Can people PLEASE stop assuming these people are underpaid and making poverty wages? Can you PLEASE go do your homework before making bleeding-heart liberal platitudes? Please??

12:27 PM

This strike has caused many many hardworking people to suffer. Although I respect the import and power of unionized workers, I cannot help but think that the TWU is being selfish and unreasonable. End the strike and support your city this holiday season!

12:28 PM

Let see, I want more money and the best way to get it is to go on strike the week of Christmas. Now all of New York is pissed off at you. Nice thinking, why don't you just go around stealing candy from babies. Or better yet, just shoot yourself in the foot because that's what you have done. Have a merry Christmas and good luck finding jobs in the new year. God knows if you worked for me (which is kind of funny because you do) I'd firer you asses.

12:28 PM

"Why take your anger out on other working class people? The point shouldn't be to bring everyone down to your level, but to raise other working class people to their level. You unwittingly make the argument that unions need to make a comeback in this country."

No. My point is that they already have a sweetheart deal, but wants more at the expense of the commuters. And I, for one, am sick of it. I'm not trying to bring anyone down to "my level." And I resent those choice of words. What more can they possibly want? Their current contract is unfair for this city, but they don't care.

12:30 PM

It is now 12:33PM, 1010wins radio just reported that the International TWU representitives appeared in court today to tell the judge that they DID NOT sanction this strike!!

The International TWU says it told Local 100 that this would be an unauthorized strike and was not in the best interests of the Union.

They went on to say that the Taylor Law seemed reasonably applicable to Local 100 in this instance.
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Oh my God, you fucking idiots! hahahahahah

Your Local not only pissed off all of New York City, you did it as a rogue Local without the consent of *your own union*!!

Retards! Even if you dont lose your pay as a result of the Taylor Law, even if NYC allows you to come back to work, even if your customers dont spit on you when you come back to work.... YOUR VERY OWN UNION is pissed at you for making them look so bad.

Why didnt you take a shit in a tophat and wear it today? You did just about everything else I can think of to make yourselves look like tools.

12:31 PM

Keep it up Bloomie and Pataki! Breaking and bankrupting the TWU will be your greatest accomplisment. You will earn the admiration of majority of your constituants who don't have pensions or free health insurance like the TWU members. Most of the employees can be replaced by machines and robots anyway!

12:31 PM

I can't wait to see Touissant taken to Riker's Island where he can truly get what he deserves where he deserves it.

12:32 PM

Transit workers have both union and civil service protection. In exchange for that extraordinary level of job protection, they are denied the right to strike and disrupt the lives of people who are much less well-off, who lack job security and pensions or who do more than drive a damned bus back-and-forth all day. I hope this strike marks the downfall of Roger Toussaint and Local 100.

12:33 PM

For everyone who wants the city to cave in to the unreasonable demands of the TWU - I don't want to hear any crying when there is a fare hike!!!!

12:33 PM

If I hear one more TWU worker say that they feel for the commuters, I'm going to throw up. I suppose this is a coincidence that you decided to walk out on the week where the commuters need you most. You selfish bastards make more than the majority of New Yorkers for working at a job that a trained monkey could do. Just remember, karma's a bitch.

Happy holidays...

12:34 PM

Where is the counter rally to fire these assholes. Tell me when, where, and how we fire these ungrateful inconsiderate morons.

They should all burn in hell for making the disabled, elderly, and handicapped walk in the cold.

12:34 PM

I support the TWU 100% - it's pretty amazing to hear New Yorkers lash out against them. Doesn't anyone believe in worker's rights anymore?

12:36 PM

hello.. Bush makes America look bad every single day!!!!!

And you Repubilican'ts still back him... wtf.. please explain that to me? He says he went in Iraq only for Saddam and lied about everything else...

You tried to impeach Clinton for getting a little head? Come on, wher eis the overall justice?

12:37 PM

Here I'll sum up this whole blog for everyone:

Respectable hard worker says: You should think of the millions of people you are hurting. Diplomacy works.

Lazy nigger says: I'M A STUPID FUCKING LAZY NIGGER WHO WILL NEVER BE ABLE TO HOLD A JOB WHERE I DON'T GET TO SLEEP, SMOKE WEED & BEAT MY DICK ALL DAY WHILE WORKING, SO I MIGHT AS WELL DO WHAT I DO BEST AND THINK OF ONLY MYSELF. PUBLIC SERVICE.... THEY NEVER DUN TEACH ME NUTHIN BOUT NO PUBLIC SERVICE.

12:38 PM

I support my union brothers and sisters in Local 100. Stay strong, stay calm and fight smart.

12:38 PM

Fire 'em all just like Ronald Reagan did. It can't be too hard to run the trains if the idiots who support this strike can do it.

12:38 PM

Using our nonexistent enforcement of immigration laws, MYC MTA should import replacement workers from Asian countries to get the trains & buses moving. Then all pensions due any TWU member should be appropriated for capital expansion of the 2nd Ave Line and to extend the N/R service to LaGuardia.
My health care is not free, my pension is whatever I save after Congress is done looting Social Security, and I don't get automatic 8% pay raises. Break the union!

12:39 PM

I support my union brothers and sisters in Local 100. Stay strong, stay calm and fight smart.

12:40 PM

I think a lot of people are confused as to how much TWU workers are paid.

The sleeping token clerk and the dumb floor sweeper are NOT getting paid 45K, they're getting paid much lower.

The 45K is an AVERAGE. You forgot the systems controllers and technical engineers, the maintenance crews and the operators!

AVERAGES can be misleading. The average apartment in the city is 1.2 million sale value. It's a fact. Is YOUR apartment worth that much?

12:41 PM

“International TWU representitives appeared in court today to tell the judge that they DID NOT sanction this strike!!

The International TWU says it told Local 100 that this would be an unauthorized strike and was not in the best interests of the Union”.

Your union has some balls. They just sold you guys down the road or is it up the creek without a paddle. Anyway it just doesn’t matter you guys are screwed. All the members of the TWU need to take a close look at your union and your representatives. Instead of complaining about how much money you don’t make, maybe the better question is how much of your money goes to the monbats representing you. I can venture to say you’d be shocked.

Marry Christmas and for once pull you head out of you (well you know what) and start thinking for yourself.

12:41 PM

I had been pro organization against for labor in the past but the Union today really makes me rethink things. I'm livid about this strike and it doesn't even affect me as I dont take the subway for work and am in the city socially maybe once a week. I have absolutely NO sympathy for the Union.
- Not willing to go to an arbitrator.
- Not moving on any issues.
- Demanding increases that are above and beyond what most workers get from benefits anywhere else.

Your leadership has screwed you. The MTA caved to give you:
- a better raise
- MLK off
- Kept the retirement age at 55 for new workers

AND you still stike!. What the hell do you want. I have NO sympathy for the Union anymore!

And the thing that really makes me angry is the foul attitude that I've experienced 90% of the time. For those 10% who have a smile, I thank you and feel bad but for the other 90% of you - you do nothing to make your case. I bet its the same lot of you that piss off customers that are gung ho for this strike - letting your anger get the best of you. Until YOU start making the system more pleasant to ride in and we can see YOU making a difference, you'll get no support from me. Add some value to our experience and show us why you deserve a raise at all - right now all we see is you complaining about some really good benefits your getting. And before today - all we saw was a bad attitude.
For those 10%, you deserve better -its a shame the other 90% are taking you down.

12:45 PM

hello.. Bush makes America look bad every single day!!!!!

"And you Repubilican'ts still back him... wtf.. please explain that to me? He says he went in Iraq only for Saddam and lied about everything else...

You tried to impeach Clinton for getting a little head? Come on, wher eis the overall justice?"

Just a little off topic there moonbat - go peddle your crazy somewhere else. The topic is the transit strike. Get it. Do you ever tire of beating that dead horse, Bush is bad blah blah blah...... geez get a fuckin life

12:45 PM

I'd like to see all of you TWU-hating people organize a plea to the MTA to work as scabs. C'mon, step up to the plate. Call the MTA and offer your services. If their jobs are so easy and pays more than your job then you are stupid for not working there.

12:46 PM

It is so sad that the people that work for TWU (yes, work for TWU not MTA) are allowing union management to think for them. We pay a considerable amount for our benefits and we have 5 children (the youngest has brain cancer). There is no pension until 62. It is at this time of year that we should all be looking at what we do have and be grateful, not screaming for more of what we don't have. I am sure that there are many people who are actually union members who actually true human beings - they are just being led down a path of injustice and wrong by their union leaders. I am truly sorry that you do not feel you are respected. How sad that you are demanding respect from the same people you obviously abhor. Life really does not work that way. Respect is earned. Also, you must first respect yourself if you want respect from anyone else. Your actions show no respect for self - they show sheep following blindly behind leadership that really does not respect anyone. I feel sorry for the workers of the TWU - your level of self loathing must be very high.

12:46 PM

To all you nasty but ANONYMOUS people... First of all driving a bus or operating a subway is NOT JUST DRIVING in CIRCLES like one lame idiot claims. There is a LOT of STRESS involved transporting complaining, nasty, LOUD cell phone talking, RUDE passengers like YOU! Deal with the TRAFFIC, the UNREALISTIC TIME SCHEDULES, THE 20 MINTUE LUNCH FOR A 10 HOUR DAY, AND FOREMOST... THE NASTY PASSENGERS who want to be catered for the 2 dollar-ride. These driver/operator/token booth clerks have to deal with danger everyday. Whether its the robbing/fighting/accidents etc that they deal with on a daily basis. OBVIOUSLY these MTA employees DO KNOW their roll, that is WHY they are on STRIKE to make it clear that YOU ALL or NOTHING without them!!!! In the past they have worked 2 years WITHOUT a contract and aonther time 3 YEARS without a contract... but the MEDIA DOESN'T PRESENT THAT TO YOU PEOPLE, so it makes these employees look bad, when they aren't. Histroy preceeds itself, so let's cut to the chase and STRIKE!

If the CITY wasn't hiding its surplus $$$ and spent it ALL the DAY BEFORE THE STRIKE, the employees wouldn't be as pissed to STRIKE NOW.

Imagine your boss bought a brand new Jet Plane and said in the same breath... Sorry, I have no money to help you with your retirement, your health benefits, your raise etc. You'd be pissed and know that he's a LIAR!!!

Get the POINT PEOPLE????

PEOPLE ALWAYS love to chant: Oh what about the FUTURE for our children... Well this is a prime example of practice what you preach. If your child wants to make more than you do in his lifetime but acquring one of these job positions, these union people are fighting to protect the intergrity of current and FUTURE employees. (Everyone cries these people make too much $$$ but no one realizes that's included in a 60-70 HOUR WORK WEEK OF OVERTIME!!!)

So SPIT in your own face to REPLY to another FELLOW blogger... not the Union's face. Cause YOU are the SELFIH people complaining of not having the transportation for a couple day. Meanwhile, YOU are MISSING out on the BIG PICTURE... the FUTURE for your CHILDREN and their retirement.

Don't be jealous of their pay. Get a job their and stop crying like a baby. If you were on the other side of the fence, I KNOW YOU WOULD BE SINGING A DIFFERENT TUNE.

Yes your losing $$$, well so are these employees. They are going to lose the day's pay on strike and 2 days pay on top of that. So for every day out its really 3 DAYS. So who is SELFISH??????

They are losing BIG TIME $$$ more than you with your $15 dollar CAB FARE. WAH......

12:46 PM

TWU's are a bunch of pathetic lazy losers. I say fire their asses, there are plenty of grateful people to take their jobs and do it better. They are all a bunch of rude, lazy, immigrants. Go back to fuckin' Haiti and see what you get.

12:46 PM

Go back to work!!! Unions are nothing more than a political tool.

12:46 PM

I hope your union goes bankrupt and you all lose your cushy jobs with pensions and benefits - I will be more than happy to take your job as you earn as much as I do and I have a law degree. Then I bet you would be saying how good you had it!!!!

12:46 PM

I lived in Brooklyn for 32 years and endured 2 strikes, the 1st when I was in 4th grade and had to walk 3 miles to school, so I know what I'm talking about.
To the fool that brought up having to "take a test", I proctored those exams many times when I was in high school, and you would have to be a COMPLETE IDIOT to fail! When the fare was a buck, I've had token booth clerks have to count on their fingers how much change to give me when I gave them a five!
You are GROSSLY overpaid as it is, and in the 30 years of my professional live I've NEVER seen ANYTHING CLOSE to an 8% raise.
Bunch of dumbasses. I hope you all get fired (Reagan did it to the Air Traffic Controllers and they had BRAINS!).

12:47 PM

Everyone comes out looking like assholes right now. Both you, the Union, and the MTA. See, the thing is, you guys all had a say in this. You got to vote on whether to strike. The MTA had the power of negotiation. The people who are truly getting screwed? It's us, the general public.

I appreciate that the MTA is probably poorly run, and that your conditions are not the best. But that's why you make a hell of a lot more than I do and get much better benefits. And I am sorry that you seem to think that $50,000 isn't a living wage because I happen to live on $30,000 and I haven't gotten a raise in 2 years. Oh, and that's before taxes, before my 401K deduction, before my health care deduction, etc. So while I may have a better work environment, you guys are more than compensated for the fact that you do a job that very few others would want to do.

Oh, and that $30,000 I make? That's before the fare hike I'm going to have to pay when this is all over.

Shame on both the MTA AND the TWU. The strike is hurting the wrong people. The New York public.

12:47 PM

To the TWU:

You took this job knowing that you were not allowed to strike. You agreed. If you don't like it or the pay/benefits - GET ANOTHER FUCKING JOB. The real reason you don't quit is because you know you won't find another sweet-ass deal like this anywhere else. FUCK ALL OF YOU!

Please Governor Pataki, Mayor Bloomberg, for the sake of all that is righteous and holy - FIRE EVERYONE OF THESE PATHETIC SPOILED LAZY MOTHERFUCKERS AND LOCK THAT ASSBAG TOUSSAINT AWAY!

12:48 PM

It's amazing how people who get paid well can ask for so much more... the people that they are hurting from going on strike are not the ones with the money and power, because they don't use public transportation. It's the people who live paycheck to paycheck... the students who are thousands of dollars in debt trying to get an education... the hardworking people of the NY that are just trying to get by.

How selfish to think that you are so much better. Screw the union, just do your job the way the rest of us do. You talk about disrespect. You treat the riders with complete disrespect, rudeness, untimeliness, hazardous driving.. you don't care about your riders, why the hell should they care anything about you? You all make a quite reasonable salary for sitting on your asses and driving around all day long.

I'm glad that the city is getting back at you... I hope you all end up in jail, out the thousands of dollars that the hardworking people of the city are losing because of you. How dare you try to stop the city... we'll get along without you... we are New Yorkers.

12:48 PM

Did someone up there really try to blame Democrats for this?? Im not a Democrat, but I think it would be more approriate to blame it on Pat Robertson. This is his fault, definitely.......I will avoid going into a politco-economical rant now.

12:48 PM

Forget about the fact that the TWU is making greedy and outrageous demands and is spinning their plight as one of an underappreciated and ill treated group. What irks me is that they claim to do a good job. Maybe 2 out of 10 transit workers are actually nice and helpful when asked a question. Trains are routinely late and spaced unevenly. Conductors and Operators often attempt to close the doors at busy stations before all passengers needing to exit have the ability to. F the TWU; they are greedy, selfish, lazy and rude bastards.

12:49 PM

First, to the anonymous guy/gal who wrote it, the sarcasm is brilliant. If you arent a professional writer you should be. It is the best post on this page and one I can only wish I would have made myself.

Thanks much. Ah, such sweet validation.

I was imaging this scenario this morning as I made my way downtown, walking from the PA. How freakin' hilarious would it have been if some live-TV hack was doing a man-in-the-street bit and here comes this disgruntled terrorist complaining about the strike cos it fucked with his bomb plot? Jesus, the laughs kept me warm for, like, at least two blocks.

First and foremost, the union is BREAKING THE LAW. Yeah, who cares, right? In this city? Shit goes down all the time and no cares, much less notices.

Second, I'm sorry, but these people do not have difficult jobs. Their current setup is pretty sweet. Fatality rates? Gimme a break. Ask any person on the street if they would want to be a teacher, a cop or a transit worker and I'm willing to bet anything they'll pick job no. 3.

Third, are they vital? Well, duh, yeah -- but it's also THEIR FUCKING JOB. They don't want it, shit, man, there are plenty who'll take their spot.

But they'll only be vital until the subways are automated. That day is coming. I can't believe the union didn't strike then, when the Metrocard and those new 4/5/6 trains came around.

Fourth, good God, you TWU people have just pissed off a whole bunch of folks. There might be a few harsh words once the workers head back to their posts, but the PR damage is done.

Not that I'm a fan of the MTA. I'm still ticked they didn't go down when that "two accounting books" thing reared its head a couple years ago.

Don't miss the rats and the smell of piss, though. Not to mention the gigantic ice-cream-cone-like turd that no doubt came from a human's ass that greeted me on the stairs leading down to the 23rd St. station earlier this year. Though that image is now fitting...

12:49 PM

I've never met a friendly subway token cashier. Fire them all!!!

12:49 PM

here's a challenge...
let's see if we can twist this somehow so it's blames bush.

12:50 PM

You're out of control. Make more money, have more secure jobs, and have incredible benefits compared to so many workers in this city who don't complain. The surplus is a 1-time thing. You're asking for increases, benefits & pensions that last for decades. I think you should get an annual bonus only if there's a surplus, and that's what's fair. You're breaking the law and crippling the city. The people you're hurting the most are the hard-working people who make less than you & rely on mass transit to get to their low-paying jobs every day so they can squeak by. You're killing the small business person who gets by with 70% of their annual sales during the holiday season - all just evaporated. It's illegal, & strikers should be fired as replacements are found.

12:51 PM

Of course they're going to want as much money as they can get - they're unemployable. Have you listened to their leader? To their spokespeople? Semi-educated, semi-literate boobs to a man. I heard one guy saying a conductor's job is "as stressful" as being a New York cop or fireman. Amazingly laughable. This strike will backfire. The mayor and the city leadership know that, because they are SMARTER than the bulk of the TWU and its members.

12:52 PM

Noone is more disrespectful than the token clerks I've encountered. You want respect? Start by being respectful. Save the money to pay the real workers and real heroes, the NYC PD and FD.

12:52 PM

Look at "Mr." Toussaint's statement at http://www.twulocal100.org/.

It does not reassure NYers to know that the TWU is run by someone who is barely literate.

Most workers pay something toward health benefits.

I cannot think of too many professions that have earned retirement at age 55.

Indeed, get over yourselves.

I do not currently live in NY, but I hope the Taylor Law results in fines that crush this union to dust.

12:53 PM

I think that the TWU are a bunch of money grubbing assholes who don't deserve to keep their jobs after pulling something like this. It is an outrage for a group of people to piss and whine about wages when there are homeless around trying to find a shelter, there are other employees of other businesses in this city that make LESS than you do, and it's absolutely outrageous to ask for a raise that virtually NOBODY GETS! I mean, who gets an 8% raise?? Shit, I'll drive the train for free, because I think it would be cool!

All of you should lose your jobs and burn in hell. The MTA will hire new and COMPETENT employees who are HAPPY to have a job!

12:53 PM

THE TAYLOR LAW IS CRIMINAL! IT IS UNAMERICAN! IT IS SHAMEFUL!

I AM A NEW YORKER. I WALKED TO WORK. I WAS INCONVENIENCED! I SUPPORT ANYONE IN THEIR STRUGGLE AGAINST CORPORATE GREED!

12:54 PM

To all the TWU workers saying how great you are, how you are getting screwed, and deserve respect:

TAKE THINGS INTO YOUR OWN HANDS - QUIT THAT JOB THAT'S SCREWING YOU AND BUT THE TIMES AND GET A BETTER JOB.

Paraphrasing a mumbled MTA NYC Transit conductor:

Let go of the doors (pinning you to this shitty job), there's another train (JOB) (if you have skills and lucky to find a good paying job) behind this one.

Now that you walked away from your civil servant job - walk away from NYC civilization! (hell knows you can take the buss out of town....)

12:54 PM

You kept me up until 3:30am wondering what to do.

I spent $40 to get to work today. I'll probably end up spending that to get home tonight.

I contribute to my health plan.

I have not recieved a raise in five years.

I have no pension.

But I went to work today. Just like I did yesterday.

And you should too.

I hope and pray that you are all fined, fired and arrested for breaking the law today. What you have done to this City is irresponsible and dangerous.

You say you want respect. Well, you've just lost every ounce of respect I ever had for you. You are cowardly, and meek. The strong fought the cold today and went to work. The weak are walking picket lines, crying about employees who have not been hired yet. Fearful of a workforce which could thrive on competition.

By going on strike, you have now branded yourself a common criminal, like a thief or rapist. You are preying on the worst fears of the community, terrorizing and threatening us.

But I went to work. And I'll be here tomorrow too. And the next day. And while you spend your last paycheck, I'll keep getting one.

You are not courageous. You are pathetic.

12:55 PM

Its all Pat Robertsons Fault!!!

12:55 PM

Toussaint: Let's strike!
Advisors: But, sir, 7 million people would not be able to get to work and over 30,000 fellow members will be fined and possibly even fire!
Toussaint: I am willing to make that sacrifice.

12:56 PM

Anti-worker racists and fascists should find another country to be a part of.

12:56 PM

What about Paul and Jan Crouch, they might have something to do with it

12:57 PM

I think it's great that of the 549 comments, every one I checked at random is negative / anti-union.

Now the author of this page is left to draw one of two conclusions:

1.) That the rank-n-file pro-union supporters are computer illiterate, hence their notable absence on this thread.

2.) That the majority of the public is not on their side.

Actually, I bet it's both. Are you sorry you enabled a comments section yet?

Hahahahaha.

12:57 PM

Bush was actually an example of how us American are always used as a scapegoat. Sorry my dear but I am a college educated and very well employed. Bloomie and the MTA revived the dead horse.

12:57 PM

You complain that people spit on you? You'll be grateful for the spit in the time to come when you're dodging the piss & shit flying past your face.

12:57 PM

Yeah, what a bunch of malarkey posted here from Che-wanna-bes and people who believe that anything perpetrated on the public by a union must be just. The MTA management was stupid to trot out this "fare reduction holiday" but the MTA has tripled its payments to TWU pensions since 2002. Fire them all and cancel their pensions tomorrow at 12:01AM. Retrain new workers by morning rush hour on Thursday. Let them file suit and have their union pay their salary.

12:58 PM

Pathetic, whining union.

Do you remember what happened to the air traffic controllers in the 1980's??

You deserve the same.

12:59 PM

Transit workers -- I wish you all the luck in the world! Stand your ground and may you get all you deserve!

12:59 PM

Another example of why unions are obsolete. Only the union execs benefit from a stike like t his. If you don't like your benefits, get a better job. By the way, what exactly are the qualifications for a bus driver? You are lucky you have what you have.

1:00 PM

If your union were smart they would have partnered with Google to post jobs ads on this blog.

You would be benefited by the potential of finding a better job (for less pay),

and the union could make money from the millions of add impressions this blog will post.

Of course the union worker won't see any of that union money. The union screws you, the worker, and the MTA.

1:01 PM

You have got to be kidding me!! You know the rest of the world has to pay for their own retirement and certainly do not get to retire at 55 or get paid what you do for what you do. Enough already, you are putting all of us who work for our retirement in a very difficult situation. This is about the TWU, and make no mistake, it has nothing to do with the rest of us hard working New Yorkers.

Money should be used to make the subway better, not make a union like yours richer!!

1:01 PM

I hope that you all get fired!

1:01 PM

I feel bad for the New Yorkers, of course, and also I would note for all the Tourists who have had their visits to New York ruined by this union.

Having had a visit to Paris ruined by unions over there, I can understand the frustration of visitor's who put their money on the line thinking they could have a good time.

Fight back NY, don't let the unionists frenchify your city. The culture of striking will not go away if you incentivize selfishness in you public servants.

1:01 PM

I got a pretty cushy job, but I don't get any 8% annual raise, and I sure as heck won't be able to reatire at 55. You got no sympathy from me.

1:02 PM

I wonder how many acromyms we can make out of TWU...
Toussaint's Whiny Union
Transit Wastes Underworked

1:03 PM

You have got to be kidding me!! You know the rest of the world has to pay for their own retirement and certainly do not get to retire at 55 or get paid what you do for what you do. Enough already, you are putting all of us who work for our retirement in a very difficult situation. This is about the TWU, and make no mistake, it has nothing to do with the rest of us hard working New Yorkers.

Money should be used to make the subway better, not make a union like yours richer!!

I think it is time to fire them all and start over. The TWU is selfish, self-serving and nothing else!

1:03 PM

I wish you the best towards coming to a fair deal. You move this city, as everyone is reminded today.

I don't want my public transportation trying to earn "profit." I want it to pay its workers well and invest everything else in to improvements. If the MTA doesn't have money to improve labor conditions they should show that with real numbers during real negotiations. If the MTA is going to claim poverty they should be contacting the officials who send so much of my transit tax money upstate instead of fighting with their work force.

HOV4 has finally turned parts of Manhattan in to a safe place for bicycles. Maybe Bruce Smolka and his ilk won't pepper spray and baton bicyclists for a little while. This dispute has created bicycle amnesty and a fight for workers' rights. This really isn't so bad.

1:03 PM

T ransit
W easels
U nemployed

1:04 PM

STAND TOUGH, STAY UNITED!

1:05 PM

See you in the clink. Hope you enjoy your fines.

1:07 PM

I have absolutely no sympathy for the TWU. You guys have secure jobs, make more money then most people and all you do is drive a bus. I hope you all get fired and lose your pensions. Most of you are unemployable outside of the Civil Service.

1:08 PM

Ok so let me get this straight, a bunch of probable high school dropouts think it is ok to go on strike to get 8% yearly raises for jobs which they are already over paid to do? What part of this makes any sense? The whole lot of you should be fired and set adrift in the middle of the ocean. You are pathetic, moronic, whiny little infants. Get back to work you lazy SOB's or move to France where they value trash such as yourselves.

1:09 PM

Roger Toussaint is a thug, nothing less. As for the striking workers,...FIRE THEM ALL!!!

You bastards cost me a day's pay!
Once you get your sorry as contract, who's going to help me recover my lost wages? I'm sure I'm not the only one.
Let's have a class action lawsuit against TWU-100 and make sure this never happens again.

1:09 PM

Here is a list of "Strike Zones" where you can throw your rotten fruit and vegetables, rocks, bricks, bottles, and see how many transit workers you can hit. Have fun!! See you there!

BRONX

Dyer Avenue

Gunhill Depot: 1910 Bartow Avenue

Pelham Barn/Westchester Sq. Yard: Eastchester Rd. & Water Street

Zerega CMF: 750 Zerega Avenue

180th Street Yard: 1151 East 180 Street

West Farms Depot: 1100 East 177th Street

Concourse Yard: 3119 Jerome Avenue

Jerome Yard: Jerome Ave. & Van Courtlandt Ave.

239th St. Barn: 4570 Furman Avenue

240th St. Barn: 5911 Broadway

241st St. White Plains Road. (RTO)

242nd St. Yard

Eastchester Depot: Interstate 95 at Exit 13

Parkchester (RTO)

Yonkers Depot: 59 Babcock St.

Tiffany Iron: 1170 Oakpoint Avenue

Woodlawn 1 & 9 Lines (RTO)

BROOKLYN

370 Jay St./130 Livingston

Bedford

Bergen St. Shop

Conway

Crosstown-Box St.

East New York Depot/Shop: 1700 Bushwick Avenue

Flatbush Ave / Nostrand (RTO)

Flatbush Depot: Flatbush & Utica Ave.

Coney Island Yard: Avenue X & McDonald

Ulmer Park Depot: Cropsey Ave. & Bay

Jackie Gleason Depot: 871 Fifth Avenue

Pitkin Yard: 1434 Sutter Avenue

Livonia Shop: 824 Linwood Shop

Atlantic Ave/Bergen Street Shop: 1415 Bergen Street

Linden Shop: 1500 Linden Blvd.

Cozine: 50 Cozine Avenue

Rockaway Parkway Carnarsie L-line

Stillwell Ave.

QUEENS

71st & Continental G,R & V lines (RTO)

179th St. F-line (RTO)

College Point Depot: 128-15 28th Avenue

Corona Barn: 126-53 Willets Point Blvd.

Ditmars Blvd. N & W lines (RTO)

Fresh Pond Depot: 56-99 Fresh Pond Road

Jamaica Barn: 7815 Grand Central Parkway

Jamaica Depot: 114-15 Guy R. Brewer Blvd.

Main St. 7-line (RTO)

Maspeth CMF:

Parsons / Archer E & J lines (RTO)

Triboro Coach Depot: 8501 24th Avenue

Woodside Electronic Shop: 33-33 54th Street

MANHATTAN

34th St. - Penn Station *

Chambers St. Flagging Quarters (RTO)

Grand Central Station (RTO)

Kingsbridge Depot: 4065 10th Avenue

207th St. Yard: 3961 10 Avenue

Manhattanville Depot: 666 West 133rd St.

100th Street Depot: 1552 Lexington Avenue at 100th Street

Michael J. Quill Depot: 525 11th Avenue

West 53rd St Power/RCC: 53rd St. btw 8/9

126th Street Depot: 2460 Second Avenue

148th St. Lenox Ave.

168th St. C Line

1:10 PM

Two months of negotiations with deaf opponent resulted the strike.
Sorry for inconvinience, passengers, but: "...any time is time for everything"-- W.Shakespear, Hamlet

1:12 PM

Terrorists
Warranted by
Unionization

1:12 PM

Good for the union!! Best of luck to the union!!

For those schmucks posting shit on here directed at the union, think about this: do your bosses take the train to work? do their bosses?

Something tells me that people talking shit on here, people that don't have the first clue about solidarity, are misdirecting their frustrations toward the workers.

Billion dollar surplus? The city and the state can't do anything to treat those who put in an honest day's work a little better?

The shit-talking comments on here say more about those commenting than they do about the strike.

Cheers to the union!!

1:12 PM

They should give you what you want and then start spending the surplus on automating every last subway train and put all of you out on the streets!

1:13 PM

Posters here who are supporting the union with typical "Go Workers!" and "The Few are Hurting the Many!" are not informed. The deal being offered to the TWU is far better than most NYers can even dream of having: salery-wise, pension-wise, even the elusive health benefits.

Toussaint is up to something here, and his union seems ill informed. I've heard MTA workers on TV and 1010 WINS saying they are going to lose their healthcare if they don't strike. Clearly they have no idea what they're striking for. It's sad, really, to see Toussaint taking advantage of all these union members.

Let's ponder what exactly Toussaint hopes to gain from this nonsense.

1:14 PM

Remember Michel J. Quill, who in the sixties told the judge " May ye drop dead in yer black robes". They put in jail and imposed huge daily fines on the TWU. He hung tough and they took off the fines and pled for him to come to the table. That strike killed him but he hung tough. O'Brien, take a lesson, Quill gave his all and the TWU won! David E. Cavender TWU-565

1:16 PM

There's a lot of understandable anger here from both sides. Let's all keep this civil. Here's what I think:

I am deeply troubled by the union's militant approach to negotiations, particularly during the Christmas season. I understand that transit workers have a difficult job to do - its dirty and thankless. The union has spoken about the MTA putting "a lock and key" on the door to the middle class for its workers. But consider this: Transit workers are very well paid and enjoy pensions benefits that have long since eroded for most New Yorkers. A bus driver starts at $17/hr, plus overtime, more than many New Yorkers make. And transit workers need not worry about paying out a significant portion of their salaries for health care, retirement accounts and college loans. The demands of this union show just how out of touch officials with the rest of the American work force. An eight percent raise every year for three years is a ludicrous request, as most workers can expect 3 percent a year, if that. Everyone wants a piece of the surplus-and they should get something-but the union's demands are out of line. One or two percent for health care is a reasonable, even generous, assessment. Non-union workers pay as much as 80 percent. The union is simply alienating average New Yorkers and costing our economy millions. Storefronts were closed this morning due to the strike because the retail clerks could not get to work, costing them a day's pay. I'm a salaried employee (Making just about as much as a rookie bus driver) and am lucky enough to live just an hour's walk from my office. It was cold. It was inconvenient. But I will do it every day for a month if it means showing the union how out of line their demands are.

1:16 PM

Oh, also, no more of this surplus crap. I didn't see the TWU offering to work for free when the MTA was in deep debt after 9/11. The funds available have nothing to do with the funds to be distributed. Are the employees part owners of the MTA now? Do they work on commission? No. So can we cut it out with that crap?

1:16 PM

Do you know (as was stated many times... NOT ALL TRANSIT WORKERS SOLELY WORK IN BOOTHS AND AS CONDUCTORS... There are the ppl who fix and repair trains, repair track, do signaling and many more behind the scene jobs that require a lot of knowledge, not just COUNTING change for a 5$.

_IMHO_

1:17 PM

Unions arent obsolete, but they should atleast follow the law and ask for reasonable raises. Did you know that the DOD only authorised a 3.1% raise for enlisted and officers? And that I believe is about the same as the national average????????

At the same time, the higher the wages and benefits go because of Unions. Pretty soon they will figure out how Chinese Nationals at $3 a day can run our buses from overseas and then what will they do??

1:18 PM

Stay strong TWU. You have more support than you think

1:18 PM

This just proves that automated trains are what we need to work on as a city.

Unions were great when we didn't have laws to protect the workers, but now they are in place to let slobs continue to get large paychecks.

You are a disgrace to our whole city, and you should all be fired.

1:19 PM

To 'THE TEMP': GROW A PAIR!!! Here, below, is what I read of your comment. All I can say is that you are a weak, pushed around fool who is too much of a pussy to act like the union is. You wish you had some moral support and the ability to pull a stunt for better working conditions. Instead, you're a chump, jealous and bitching about other people's chances at a better future. Nothing more spiteful than that. Merry Christmas, Scrooge.

"Imagine your boss bought a brand new Jet Plane and said in the same breath... Sorry, I have no money to help you with your retirement, your health benefits, your raise etc. You'd be pissed and know that he's a LIAR!!!

Get the POINT PEOPLE????

I get the point, because my boss just did do that. Hence why I am still a temp but the boss's daughter and the assistant he sleeps with are permanent with benefits.

As did the boss before that, and before that. If you have never been in a situation where your company claimed it 'couldn't afford' to do things for you, then I question whether you've held a full-time job before.

Every company is corrupt. Transit workers are not the only "oppressed" people in this city, and the commuters they are stranding are not all rich and privileged. Get over yourself."

1:19 PM

Yeah they should use the Surplus to automate the trains and slim down on the employees. Computers dont complain, well just dont base it on WIN98 or we they might.

1:20 PM

This makes me glad I don't live in a region dependant on mass-transit. Unhappy government workers striking (illegally?) from a government wage and benefit job, trying to shut down the city and hold it hostage.

NIMBY - not in my back yard - I'll vote much harder against mass transit schemes in the future.

Meanwhile, as the Auto unions are in trouble, the government union doesn't want to suffer the same misfortune as 'private citizens'? Heh.

New York City, you have always considered yourself a leader among communities, so consider privatizing mass transit and clear the inefficiencies out of the current system. At the very least drop pensions paid by taxpayers for modern systems like 401Ks.

And allow flexibility in the dress code for drivers, sheesh. Docked for scarves on cold days?

1:21 PM

Whether the workers are over- or under-paid is arguable. What is not is that the strike is against the law. As this is a country founded on the rule of law, these criminals must be dealt with severely, to the fullest extent of the law. I suggest we give them one chance to get back to work by midnight tonight or fire every last one of them and throw the leaders in jail.

1:21 PM

The problem with the MTA surplus is through bond issues, including the most recently approved one in November that included the Second Avenue subway preliminary work, the agency has back-loaded its debt service to the end of the decade. It makes the books look good today, if you're George Pataki and Peter Kalikow, and it allows Roger to tell his workers there's a big pot of honey lying on the table if they'll only hold out, but once the MTA has to start repaying the debt on the bonds, that $1 billion is going to vanish in a hurry.

Pataki could just opt in the end to kick the financial can up the road, settle the strike and let Governor Spitzer and whoever his MTA chairman is worry about the finances when the bill comes due (Second Avenue subway? We don't need no stinkin' Second Avenue subway!). But since George still harbors presidential ambitions and most people outside of the state think New York spends money like a drunken sailor anyway, chances are he and Kalikow are not going to budge on the medical benefit change for a while. And to be honest, it's unlikely most of the public is going to feel sorry for a deal that requires 1 percent payment of medical cost on future employees (who are not even in the union yet).

The surplus numbers are Toussant's biggest asset in gaining support from the public for what he wants in the contract, but they're bogus because of the looming debt owed by the MTA. It's just that while the MTA may at times want to plead poverty to justify fare hikes, they're not going to come out and say they've backloaded the agency's debt for the next administration in Albany to worry about, even if it would make the small benefit give-back make far more sense.

1:22 PM

i agree with Hank 100%, we should teach em a lesson!!!

1:23 PM

Inquiring minds want to know... what exactly is the content of these discriminating tests you're required to take? Do they contain such brain scorchers as 'All buses must stop before railroad crossings. True of False?' Do any universities offer Ph.Ds in 'advanced timetable methodologies' or 'Train throttle handle physics'? Indeed is any education beyond a high school diploma required?

1:24 PM

It is unbelievable to me how smallminded so many New Yorkers posting on this blog are.

The most reprehensible argument here (besides the "I hope you get AIDS in prison" and faux-ebonics comments, natch) is "*I* don't get that kind of money. Why should *you*?" Maybe if we weren't all lapdogs to corporate America, we WOULD have the benefits that the TWU workers are striking for.

Striking is a bargaining tool with a long, proud history--and a long, blase history in other countries, where this kind of stuff happens all the time and people don't freak out and claim that their "lives are being ruined" by a transit strike. Deal with it.

1:25 PM

I hope in a few years NYC Subway Operator is as common a term as an elevator operator.

1:26 PM

I still find it hilarious how you all (opposers of the strike) still suggest FIRING THEM ALL.. hello.. your asses will still be walking down the street right next to me! All the way back to Brooklyn

~Prospect Heights~

1:26 PM

Actually yes, you can get a degree, even a Masters in Logistics Management!!!! :o)

1:26 PM

Mike, I lost your cell phone no. If you're reading this, please buy some milk and Tide. Love, Diane

1:26 PM

Not my ass, I dont live in NY right now :o)

1:27 PM

That degree would make you an exempt employee.

You would be management. They don't strike.

1:27 PM

Its time to stop dealing with unions who have hijacked the city and all of its hard working people for the sake of a few selfish benefits. You should all be fired for what you are doing. I dont even know why we have to negotiate with a union. This is the 21st century, not the 19th. Retire at 55 with half my pay?! C'mon, no one has that. Ten percent pay increases for the next three years?! HA. Thats laughable. Lets find some real hard working folks who will take your jobs away in a heartbeat. Unions are outdated, inefficient and lazy.

1:27 PM

LO.. good come back at poster on Masters degrees you can earn...

1:28 PM

Here's my message for the TWU -- Mayor Bloomberg is not about to be held hostage by the likes of Roger Touissant, or the uneducated, overpaid members of the TWU. My hope is that he initiates a class-action lawsuit against the TWU and its fine employees, so that every business and individual in this city who suffers lost revenue and wages can collect them from the TWU. Hopefully, this will serve to bankrupt the union and incite the city to find a private mass transit provider. The trains are filthy, the service is bad, and the conductors and booth clerks are often surly.

New Yorkers deserve better than this.

The TWU workers will find jobs for their particular skill sets in places like McDonald's, Kinko's and other low-paying, low or non-benefit employers.

1:28 PM

Funny how I overheard NYCT (as indicated by their jackets) personnel making plans to go get a beer sometime today, while I was freezing waiting in line, and 2 hours late for work, to buy a ticket for the LIRR. Ironically, when I was entering the train, two MTA employees were exiting the LIRR to go strike on Queens Blvd.

1:29 PM

You have to love the logic. When the MTA was losing money, and it will again, you did not hear the clamour from the Union to have their fair share of losses. The idea of what yours is mine and whats mine is mine is naive and disengenous.

The union has overplayed their hand and now has made public their sweetheart deal for general consumption. They had the aggravation factor as their major bargaining chip and know that they have pulled the trigger and gone on strike they will have to reap what they have sown.

1:30 PM

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JAN CROUCH FOR PRESIDENT IN '08
JAN CROUCH FOR PRESIDENT IN '08
JAN CROUCH FOR PRESIDENT IN '08
JAN CROUCH FOR PRESIDENT IN '08
JAN CROUCH FOR PRESIDENT IN '08
JAN CROUCH FOR PRESIDENT IN '08
JAN CROUCH FOR PRESIDENT IN '08
JAN CROUCH FOR PRESIDENT IN '08
JAN CROUCH FOR PRESIDENT IN '08
JAN CROUCH FOR PRESIDENT IN '08
JAN CROUCH FOR PRESIDENT IN '08
Love ya, Jezus Jan! ;o*

1:31 PM

People who always hold their hands outstretched looking for freebies at others expense are beggers.

Last time I checked, in NYC, all the beggers on the street are freelancers.

Who's helping them? Should they be unionized also?

The air is free - that's it.

Go to work AND work. If it sucks - go elsewhere. That is freedom.

1:33 PM

End these Communist unions once and for all, vote Libertarian.

1:34 PM

Dear TWU,

The success or failue of your strike will be determined by the public's perception of your actions. Thus far you have failed to make your case known to us and it seems like the majority of the people out there do not support your actions at this time. You need the support of the people of New York City and if you want to make a friend please lift and postpone the strike until after the holidays then people will back you up. Take the time to explain that you don't make absurd sums of money, that your working conditions are aweful, and that after 55 manuel labor isn't really an option. You were asking for a 24% raise over 3 years which seems absurd to most of us who haven't gotten raises for the past 5 years at our desk jobs. Yet we can leave for better pay and you cannot. I feel for all of you but your leader has failed to communicate your dire needs to masses of New York and soon they will turn on you. Please stop the strike (for a few weeks) and win back the support of the people, but by all means keep up the fight.

1:34 PM

Those of us who pay your salary have no guaranteed pension and are having our retirement pushed to 67. You are greedy and crazy.

1:34 PM

i absolutely support this move even though, yes, i am incredibly inconvenienced by it. those out there who think that all you do is drive around in circles are no doubt the same assholes who yell at you and threaten you and look down on you for being a lower-middle class civic employee. the city cannot run without you, in the same way that new york cannot run without the financial district. the key difference here is that while those in the financial distric take home six-figures and stock options for blowing apart the world with disgusting and shameful interests, you merely ask for a small portion of financial stabilty--- a financial stability that threatens to be up-ended everytime big business puts the middle and lower classes in jeopardy. this strike is not just about TWU100, but the very future of the working class. i am proud to be here to support you, as a rider and as a New Yorker.

1:35 PM

"Remember Michel J. Quill, who in the sixties told the judge " May ye drop dead in yer black robes". They put in jail and imposed huge daily fines on the TWU. He hung tough and they took off the fines and pled for him to come to the table. That strike killed him but he hung tough. O'Brien, take a lesson, Quill gave his all and the TWU won! David E. Cavender TWU-565"

Get back to work, you lousy bum and stop holding this city hostage!

1:35 PM

Thank you transit workers for showing the rest of America that there are still people with enough integrity, honor and courage to fight the white collar criminal establishments and corrupt government officials.

New York city, the financial capital of the world and home to more white collar criminals per capita than any other region will likely not concede, however, you can be proud that you are at least doing your part. Yes, the same New York city which hosts 1000's of corrupt, criminal brokerages, mutual funds and other organizations whose sole purpose in life is to line their pockets at the expense of "middle america". The fact that union workers live in the corrupt financial capital should not indict them as being criminals as well. The problem is, with a corrupt mayor (bloomburg) along with other corrupt city and state officials, it is likely at the end of the day you will not receive what you are asking for. Nevertheless, at least you have shown the corrupt financial capital of the world that you can at least take a stand.

Either way you are screwed; at least this way you can do it with dignity!

1:36 PM

Quick question. If this strike is so necessary and justified then how come your own international brotherhood went to court and said that your demands are unreasonable and that you should be made to suffer the full effects of the Taylor Laws. Your boy Toussaint may have just lost you your charter and then what good is a union with no national advocacy. This strike is as illegitimate as one of Shawn Kemp's Children. that is my last post for the day. I don't want to waste any more of the time you guys should be using figuring out how to explain to your trade workers that yu don't have any national support from your own union. So long and good night.

1:37 PM

"Allison said...
i absolutely support this move even though, yes, i am incredibly inconvenienced by it. those out there who think that all you do is drive around in circles are no doubt the same assholes who yell at you and threaten you and look down on you for being a lower-middle class civic employee. the city cannot run without you, in the same way that new york cannot run without the financial district. the key difference here is that while those in the financial distric take home six-figures and stock options for blowing apart the world with disgusting and shameful interests, you merely ask for a small portion of financial stabilty--- a financial stability that threatens to be up-ended everytime big business puts the middle and lower classes in jeopardy. this strike is not just about TWU100, but the very future of the working class. i am proud to be here to support you, as a rider and as a New Yorker."

And you're a fucking moron. What about the commuters? We're the ones who are going to be stuck with this bill. The fact is that the deal offered by the MTA was MORE than generous. It's not about "Well, I don't make as much as that, so you shouldn't." This is about the fact that they already have a great deal, but they want a better one at the expense of the commuter. And I'm sick of that.

Today I passed a picket line and I told them exactly what I thought of them--that they were all greedy bums. I encourage everyone to do the same and let these idiots know exactly how you feel.

1:38 PM

Hey pissed off conductor: You're a bigger moron than your union bosses, because you are stupid enough to walk off the job because they tell you to. Don't try to gain sympathy by talking about rats. You know why police and firemen get more respect? Because it was THEM that rushed into the WTC on 9/11 and saved the ass of thousands, perhaps even someone in your own family. You pussies probably ran and hid on that day. Dont even begin to TRY and compare your rotten group with FDNY. You deserve nothing.

1:38 PM

It's refreshing to see the union stand-up against the government. Our rights as workers continue to be eroded, and most nobody seems to care. Also, I agree that other public workers are also paid too little, but why does it have to be a race to the bottom? Hopefully, this strike will motivate other public servants and laborers in general to stand-up for themselves as well. God bless, and godspeed.

1:40 PM

well I would hope they would quit before they have a lawsuit taken out on them. Then all you people that envy their posh jobs, being paid $16 to drive the bus.. (that have always said they were hiring.. luxury to have a 20 -30 min lunch break and literally no bathroom breaks) can start working and being trained by the 55 y/o workers that are about to retire... cool? Great apply today and begin training and get you new burgundy vest so you can stand outside the token booth at Franklin Ave or Liberty over in East New York, don't forget you blade so nobody attacks you!

1:40 PM

JAN CROUCH FOR PRESIDENT IN '08
??????????????????????????????? What the hell?? So whats she gonna do for the strike, give all the transit workers a little Jan Doll???

1:40 PM

The union mentality is utterly ridiculous. A long proud history? C'mon? Yes, we would all be walking tomorrow if we could fire all of you, but think of the long term implications. Benefits for all New Yorkers. Union workers: join the real job. If you dont like your job, find another, but its crazy to strike and disrupt the lives of many. When is your union going to pay the city back for all the contingency planning? You folks are killing the city with your benefits and pensions. And lets not even talk about outsourcing. Unions have priced themselves right out of the market. Who wouldnt outsource? Its time to stop even recognizing that they exist. They dont serve any purpose in todays world. These folks should be fired. Break the union now.

1:42 PM

thank you TWU for fighting for all working people! for pushing for more, and not settling for the rollbacks on our rights and benefits.

where's the picket line? many of us want to come out and show our support!

~ Erin Mahoney
member of CWA local 1180

1:44 PM

Working class != Unions To carry yourself so high as to say that TWU's demands are for the working class is a disservice to the working class, who make half as much as you in this city that is growing ever more expensive (and so on and so forth as far as housing costs, inflation, food, all those perfectly true facts you pointed out). But THEY do it WITHOUT any health insurance or raises, much less pension at ANY age. Now, if THOSE guys were striking, I'd be in full support. But not you. As for the "abuse" of the job. Do what other people do: Get another job. No one else gets a waiver from the requirements of the job they take simply because they change their mind. Their bosses do not say "Oh, I'm sorry, let me make it easier for you since you've, you know, changed your mind about it." Can you imagine if doctors or cops or firepeople went that way about THEIR oaths?

1:44 PM

remember if the "repairmen" and signalers walk off... the conductors can't work and the token booth clerks need to be there.... so if one strikes the rest either stand there or strike as well... as one....

1:46 PM

RIGHT ON TWU!!!! STRIKE!!!

1:48 PM

UNION LABOR built this country, gave us the weekend and the 8-hour day.

Thank God there are some people left in this country with the balls to stand up for themselves and demand what's right.

1:48 PM

Fire all the union thugs and replace them with H-1 guest worker Visa holders. You would definitely have a better running operation.

1:49 PM

Toussaint has proven he has no working braincells. He starts out with an 8% per year demand (news flash . . . how many of your riders get that???) and then says he will reduce it to 6% per year if the MTA will reduce disciplinary actions. Just a little hint . . . those actions arise because your workers are either non-performing or dangerous. Most of us are lucky to get 3% per year. STAY ON STRIKE FOREVER!!! I will walk to Penn Station from now on so you greedy bastards won't get a dime of my money. Maybe in your new jobs you will have to do an honest day's work.

1:50 PM

I hope Bloomberg fires all of you and replaces you with trained monkeys. Make that semi-trained monkeys.

1:50 PM

Guiliani was the first US D.A. to use RICO (racketeering in corrupt organizations) Act to take down the mob.

Spitzer should use RICO to take down the unions.

1:51 PM

I'm totally behind the TWU all the way!

1:51 PM

To pissed off conductor:

Now you are lying. Cops and teachers aren't respected. And everyone has to put up with poor working conditions. No matter how you want to portray it, your deal is better than your worth, as there are many people who would love to do your job for less. And that is the BOTTOM LINE.

1:52 PM

Hmmm.

To paraphrase the late great President Ronald Reagan:

"Fire'em all!"

1:52 PM

How much does it cost to automate the subway system and do away w/ conductors? $100mm?, $200mm?, $1bb? Probably much less than $1bb I would guess. That's 2.5 days of strike cost. Bloomy, your background is in systems. Time to get to work.

1:52 PM

Pataki and Bloomberg ought to fire every last one of the transit workers just like Reagan did with the Air Traffic Controllers. Its readily apparent the workers staged this strike at such a critical time of year so they can squeeze every penny they can for sitting on their butts all day doing unskilled labor making too much money. Greedy bastards. The trains and buses should be automated to get rid of these overpaid sloths.

1:53 PM

"boo hoo you gotta push your baby in 20 degree weather or you going to lose a days pay."

Whoa...way to get the common people on your side, jerkoff.

1:53 PM

RE: The comment about replacing workers with "Trained Monkeys".

What an insult to Monkeys everywhere, especially the trained ones.

Monkeys work hard, and what do they get for it? A banana maybe?
Don't put monkeys down this way by saying they could be TWU members.

1:55 PM

I've encountered way too many rude MTA employees sitting in their subway bubble, making $16 to $20/hr, to garner any sympathy from me.

In the past year, I can remember asking for assistance five times - four times I was met with the attitude of "don't ask me - I can't help you" - without offering to point me in the direction of someone who could.

Why do I get the impression that these are miserable people?

1:55 PM

Can't wait for the commute home to see you assholes with your signs. If this blog is any idea of the public's feeling about your actions, you'll need all the protection you can get. I hope NY gives you the same consideration and respect you have given them, NONE!!!!

1:56 PM

The Transit Union needs a healthy dose of reality. I find it incredible that they believe they deserve the kind of pay they are asking for. Look around at the economy and other major corporations. "Full retirement at 55" - please! If you dont like the job you have, find another one.

1:56 PM

Where are the picket lines!!!???? I want to see picket lines!!! I want signs, slogans, chanting, scabs, fist-fights, riots, etc. This no fun. Why can't the state tax collection outfit go on strike? The cops should go on strike too. Everyone strike until they (whoever they are) pay every hard working American $1,000,000 a year. Then we'll all be rich. Take that you rich fucks! Fuck the MTA! Fuck Kalikow and the mayor! Power to the people!!!!

Seriously, you guys are overpaid; COL only just like the rest of us. Also, you're doing some other workers some real harm with this strike. You guys ever have to go work in corporate America, or worse, retail and service, you'd know what hard is. Many 'suits' make less than the avg. TWU salary w/ health contribution, etc. But the MTA should give back on the stupid rules and regs. No scarves, top buttons, etc. is pretty silly.

1:56 PM

What a bunch of whiners. If you don't like your jobs, go work somewhere else. I hope Bloomberg announces that everyone who doesn't report for work tomorrow is fired.

1:56 PM

I'm sick and tired of hearing about "workers' rights" and how the people who do not support the strike are against workers' rights. Maybe it would be easier to support the strike if the TWU were more reasonable in their demands. Instead, they backed themselves into a corner with all the posturing and gave themselves no other option but to strike or look like a bunch of idiots.

btw, the MTA is not a corporate entity!!!!!!

1:57 PM

Thanks Transit Workers! You're giving a big Christmas present to all the anti-Labor types out there. Especially in NYC, which is quite a feat!

Which is fine with me! I hope they fire you all, and deduct the lost revenue and fines from your next contract, which will NOT be as nice as your current one.

This will bring New Yorkers together like 9-11 did, uniting against a common enemy that sucker punches people who won't meet their outrageous demands.

Way to go and thanks again!!

1:57 PM

You lazy selfish overpaid bastards should all be fired. What country do you think this is? France? I can think of a lot Katrina families who need new jobs, the mayor should give them yours.

1:58 PM

So the Transit Union is on strike for the right of its workers to retire at age 55? Man, what a sweet deal that is. You people are spoiled rotten. I hope this stupid ploy of yours costs you dearly in the court of public opinion.

1:58 PM

You guys make $65,000, retire at 55 and don't have to pay any health care? And that's not good enough? I hope the break your sorry asses.

1:58 PM

To "My message for the TWU" There are alot of college educated people who work for the MTA. Who are you to decide what's good for us? First off Metro North condutors as well as Long Island Railroad make more than we do for the same work; so compare us to them and the rest of the transit workers around the country. The problem with you is that your whole life you have been conditioned like pavlov's dog to wait for some evaluation from your boss after a years worth of playing the "brown Nose" game. You better hope we come out of this situation real soon because in case nobody told you the average middle class person can't afford to live in this city. But someone like yourself with a silver spoon still stuck up there ass can't see things clearly outside there own white collar universe.

2:00 PM

You guys against the TWU don't know what ur talking about! The public transportation workers of this city deal with the most ignorant, arrogant, idiotic people around. If they don't get a raise, a good raise, and a better retirement plan than i say STRIKE, STRIKE, STRIKE as long as you need! Anyone that does not like what I've said can fu** themselves!

2:00 PM

How long are you guys willing to strike? The strike does not show that you guys are valuable. It shows that you do not care about your jobs. Hopefully Mayor Bloomberg will keep this in mind when negotiating. You should all get pay cuts to help the city recoup the losses caused by the strike and your leaders should go to jail for violating court orders and breaking the law.

2:01 PM

I haven't spoken with anyone who is effected too much by the strike. Plenty of cabs available and a nice day for walking. The city should see this as an opportunity to make the city more efficient by to firing all striking employees and hire non-union labor with realistic compensation expectations. Good old Reagan did it with the air traffic controllers in 1981. A metrocard dealer can't be harder to replace than an air traffic controller.

2:02 PM

The Transit Union needs a healthy dose of reality. I find it incredible that they believe they deserve the kind of pay they are asking for. Look around at the economy and other major corporations. "Full retirement at 55" - please! If you dont like the job you have, find another one.

Applause! Whenever we try to divide people into the "privileged classes" vs. the "underprivileged classes," they are arguing on false premises. Anyone who thinks that all blue-collar workers are poor and oppressed, while white collar work is all about comfort and leaving at 5:00 and gossiping at the water cooler, is arguing on false premises.

"boo hoo you gotta push your baby in 20 degree weather or you going to lose a days pay."

Whoa...way to get the common people on your side, jerkoff.

Probably they would only sympathize if the baby is part of a liberal-approved "oppressed class." The fact that the mother can afford day care implies that the mother is by default obviously overprivileged and white collar. Thus, it is fine to hurt her baby.

Get the socialist logic yet, folks?

2:02 PM

Get back to work you spoiled losers!

2:02 PM

Even terrorists couldn't stop this city...Do you think that a bunch of whining transit workers can? Stop being so selfish...you make as much as the average person, and you are still complaining. You're not doctors and NASA engineers, ok? A lot of people depend on you, sure, but you have no right to exploit that fact because really...your jobs aren't that hard. I hope you get fined bigtime. I have zero sympathy for you. MERRY CHRISTMAS.

2:03 PM

Congratulations TWU!!! Bin Laden and Touissant have alot in common. They have both unified everyone against an evil cause. At least we know where to find Touissant.

2:03 PM

Toussaint and the union leadership have sure picked a winning strategy!

How's this sound: whine about being underpaid when you're getting double what cops, firemen, sanitation workers, and teachers are making! Demand a 24% raise over 3 years, an amount that most New Yorkers would be embarassed to ask for! Refuse to pay for a small portion of health insurance, although most New Yorkers are paying towards their own health insurance! Massively inconvenience all the people that the union needs on it side, if it wants to put any sort of significant pressure on the MTA!

You are hurting the working class people who use the subways and buses. You're hurting business owners small and large who depend on holiday shopping. You have virtually no sympathy from New Yorkers of all races, all professions, and all income ranges. Congratulations on uniting almost everyone against your cause and your union! Pure genius!

2:03 PM

One giant group of people is being treated badly by a very small group of people in power, who are reaping huge benefits at the masses expense.

This is moronic. You do not live in a communist country. No one owes you a job. Adult workers are not little babies to be coddled. If you feel oppressed, you should tell your employer to shove it and quit. Get an education, train for another job, move somewhere with better jobs, whatever. That's what it means to really be empowered.

2:03 PM

It took me almost an hour to take a dying patient from 164th St to Elmhurst Hospital... I'm a NYC Paramedic, and it'd normally take 10 minutes or less. You guys (TWU 100) have created this chaos. How dare you??? Most of you pussy ass niggas barely have a GED and your fucking base salary is even higher than those of the NYPD, Firefighters, and EMS workers... People that put their life in risk every fucking day! Who da fuck do you think you are!? You shutting down the city, and dividing it at the same time, cause you'll see now how people will start to say that most of your greedy fucking asses are black... See? It's always the black people! You bring shame to your own race. Who da fuck you think you are??? Do you know how many houses will burn to ashes cause Firefighters won't be able to get there on time??? and how many people is gonna die cause EMS won't be able to be there on time because of the havoc that you mother fuckers have created? Ass Holes!

2:04 PM

WHY DONT I SEE YOU LAZY FUCKS PICKETING????? ARE YOU FUCKS TOO LAZY TO PICKET?

Or maybe you are cowards to show your faces.

Man I cant wait for you to go back to work, your lives will be so miserable.

I hope y'all realize how LITTLE support you have from New Yorkers.

2:05 PM

Dissolve the union!

2:05 PM

Fire those union workers, fire them all. They've been paid a lot but they still want more. Put MTA suplus to update the subway system or clean up the stations. There are plenty of people want their jobs. Move some people hit by Katrina here and they will like to work.

2:06 PM

Noting like pissing the rest of the city off.... That's a great way to generate sympathy. Let's hope Bloomberg pulls a Reagan (fat chance)

2:06 PM

This strike hurts the working stiff the most - people that can't afford to own a car or pay for car service. We should fire all these workers and replace them with people who ain't greedy.

2:06 PM

This strike represents the last gasp of the dying labor movement. When this backfires, and labor is even more marginalized, we can all say good riddance to these corrupt and outdated organizations. Claiming this strike is about working people is a farce and the height of absurdity. Real working people don’t get to retire at 55 with a lucrative pension. I can’t wait until the full brunt of the law is brought to bear on these spoiled transit workers. May you get none of your demands; may the union be brought to bankruptcy; may these childish employees reap what they have sown.

2:07 PM

Strikes by government employees should be outlawed.

2:08 PM

"I hope y'all realize how LITTLE support you have from New Yorkers."

Don't you have better shit to do than be on the transit workers blog, Governor?

2:08 PM

Roger Toussaint is leading a strike of the past when it would be time to confront the future. I have sympathy for the right of workers to be treated fairly and dignity but I have no sympathy for salary and benefits requests which have no relation with reality. Most of MTA users work just as hard or more and are far from getting such a favorable package. Taking them hostage is a shame. A fair package has been offered and the fines should now be applied.

2:08 PM

Unions, just a way for lazy greedy people to stuff $$$$ in their pockets. They should outlawed in this country already.
Most people have no job security, pay into a 401K and PAY for health benefits. All you do is BLEED the public dry. Your nothing but a bunch of lazy people who are frequently nasty and rude to the riders. Stay out of work New Yorkers don't need you. We can replace everyone of you with people who want to work and not just sit on their butts and complain about everything.

You want guaranteed benefits and jobs then move to CUBA. Communists your all nothing but a bunch of Communists.

2:08 PM

I no longer have respect for you bunch of stupid people. You are following the leadership of a man who has blinders on and doesnt want you to hear or see the truth. may you all get nothing but coal in your stockings. greed looks ugly on your faces. Ignorance on the part of the members looks uglier. wake up and realize you are killing your union.

2:09 PM

I no longer have respect for you bunch of stupid people. You are following the leadership of a man who has blinders on and doesnt want you to hear or see the truth. may you all get nothing but coal in your stockings. greed looks ugly on your faces. Ignorance on the part of the members looks uglier. wake up and realize you are killing your union.

2:09 PM

I'm going to piss on every single one of you.

2:10 PM

I hope you all get fired....

2:10 PM

As all the people cry and whine about how cold it was to stand outside today. I dont feel for them at all. These workers do it everyday and Congrads to them for asking the company to make sure that their healthcare is being taken care of. This is to the student who cried about being stuck in a hotel room, boo hoo. These people are striking so spoiled brats like yourself one day will not have to fight like this. Remember a couple of months ago the fare hikes shutting down down booths the TWU was with you why are you not there supporting a person trying to provide for their family. What is $50,000 in NY. Get a grip. The taylor law should be thrown out as any union should have the right to strike. A train,bus,plain is not a necisity is a luxury. Get your fat-A** up and walk like people did 100 years ago, if you feel we should wages of 30 years ago. Inflation rises, profits rise, but salaries are declineing. Wake up America.... Walmart is taking over your brains.......

2:11 PM

Reading some of the comments it seems you have few supporters. Of the few you have at least one is some sort of self styled commie revolutionary. Bravo! We need more crazy ass people grinding imaginary grudges in this city like Hillary Clinton needs her ankles thickened. I predict at the end of all this there will be many losers;the patrons of the MTA, the Union and organized labor in general. You should be ashamed of yourselves for your selfish stunt.

2:11 PM

Go TWU!!!! n I used to be a transit worker down south and there is definitely a zero respect factor from the not only the general public, but those in charge. I never saw any of them leave their comfy offices and come out and drive a filthy vehical that was rigged to run and chuck heavy *** luggage into the van and stuff like that. Bring light to it all!!!!!!!! Bravo from a supporter down south

2:12 PM

If any of you pathetic high school dropouts asked for these perks in the real world, you would be laughed at before being fired! You want more money for driving a bus!?! I hope Bloomberg fires every single one of you, you deserve nothing less!

2:13 PM

How dare you? In what other industry, on what planet, do people get to retire at 50? Get to make more money than police officers, whose job requires far more skill and more risk to personal safety? Get a raise without proving that you, INDIVIDUALLY, are worth the extra money?

I would love to see the MTA AND the TWU dissolved. Let the subways be run by private companies, as they should have been all this time, and let workers bargain on their own INDIVIDUAL merits for raises and benefits. Or are you afraid you aren't good enough?

2:13 PM

If you don't think you're paid enough -- QUIT. If you don't like your cushy benefits -- QUIT. If you think you're treated unfairly -- QUIT. See if you can find another job with the pay and benefits you now enjoy. There would be 100 people more than happy to take your place. ASSHOLES!

2:14 PM

Ignorant and uninformed are the two words that come to mind when I think of Toussaint. He has ruined the holiday season, inconvenienced 7 million people and probably cost his future job out of pride and smuggness. A strike is not the solution. There are other jobs just as important, teacher, cops, firefighters who all have worked things out eventually without a childish walkout. I feel bad for all of the children that have to witness this shame.

2:15 PM

Currently, train operators, station agents and cleaners earn an annual base salary of between $47,000 and $55,000.

2:16 PM

Actually I am thinking of taking the path from now on, it's cheaper and maybe it will put some of you out of work.

You should all be fired and put in jail for endangering the welfare of New Yorkers. I'll take your job, without the raise and with contributing 1% towards my benefits. I hope many more NYers come forward with this idea and we can get ride of this selfish union,=.

I have to pay for my benefits, and it is more than 1% of my salary. An 8% raise is very ridiculous, not to mention that if you do receive this you probably will cause us hard working New Yorkers to get another fare hike, which means we'll be paying for your raise. As if you don't get paid enough.

2:17 PM

You wouldn't be freezing the eldery in the cold as a bargaining chip, right? I'm sure it never crossed your minds.

You got better benefits than I do.

2:17 PM

I hope you're all fired. Maybe the post office is fired.

Bastards!

2:18 PM

BE ASHAMED...BE ASHAMED OF THE STRIKE AND MAY THE GOD ALIMIGHTY GIVE THE MAYOR AND THE MTA THE POWER TO FIRE YOU ALL AND PUT YOU OUT ON THE STREET FOR BREAKING THE LAW.

2:18 PM

Bloomberg should fire every last one of you like Reagan did to the Air traffic controllers. Surely Republicans have to be good for something, don't they?

2:18 PM

How you guys can pretend to give a crap about the working man, when you retire on the cush at 55, is just beyond me.

And at Christmas time, too.
Asshats like you guys are why my town's flooded with refugees from your sorry-ass excuse for a city.

2:19 PM

Time to fire these folks and hire replacements who are grateful for their jobs. This has been done before (c.f. air traffic controllers) and it worked very nicely.

2:20 PM

You sally fochs. 10 out of 10 of you can't read, don't know you're primary colors, and believe you deserve more. Makes sense...

Think of this jackasses: imagine if my brother and the balance of the brave men and women in Iraq, Afghanistan and our other international outposts determined that they deserved more and went on strike. YOU MTA JACKASSES HAVE NOTHING to complain about, as you do not spend your day pounding sand, trying to keep yourself and your comrades alive.

Grow up.

2:20 PM

First, I have nothing against bus drivers or other transit workers. My dad drove for Trailways and Greyhound for over thirty years. But the MTA workers in NYC are dead wrong on this strike. If the reported figures of approximately $55,000 are correct, that is a nice pay package, especially when you get a full pension and retirement at 55 for which you only want to contribute 2% of your pay! No way could I get that deal in the corporate world. You would be fortunate just getting a full pension. Most of us out here actually have to pay into a retirement savings and hopefully get a little matching from our employers. We certainly are not likely going to have enough saved up to retire by 55 at full pay! And I have not had more than a 3-4% raise in my white collar job in over five years! So what are you people complaining about??? You have a pretty attractive compensation package considering that finding replacement for yours work is likely much easier than finding replacements in the corporate sector. Supply and demand. Based on that, some would argue you are overpaid! But this is what unions are about in this country in 2005. It is not about getting a fair deal, it is about extorting money from corporations and government employers. Probably will not happen in NYC, but I they should fire every striking worker, bust the union, hire replacement or fired workers back as non-union and make the same offer. The smart ones will jump at it because it is a great offer. The greedy ones will sulk away and later wish they had realized what a nice setup they had.

2:21 PM

I hate every single one of you bums.

2:21 PM

I just want to say GOOD FOR YOU!!! Stick to your guns. I live in Toledo, Ohio and I very much support what you guys are doing! Unions are there to help protect workers rights. its really that simple. A lot of people complain and say that union members already make too much money etc etc. but whats wrong with making a decent living in this country. Rich people already want to get rid of the middle class, along with our governments. i say STICK IT OUT, BE TRUE TO YOURSELVES AND GOD BLESS YOU!!!!!!!!!

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2:22 PM

learn how to fix the escalators, run the trains on time and keep the stations clean; Then maybe I'd have an inkling of sympathy for your cause. Half of the TWU make more then I do, an educated teacher, and it's employees can barely speak english. Get over yourselves and do your DAMN JOBS!

2:23 PM

i would like to gather every disguntled new yorker. give them all a cartoon of eggs. travel to all your strike locations and beam you all. you deserve nothing. i hope you all get fired and have a horrible christmas. i hope you all starve. if you dont like what the MTA is paying you, then QUIT! go out and try and get a better deal...its capitalism...not socialism...you deserve nothing in my book. I've never met anyone helpful or friendly who works for the MTA. Customers all ready hate you guys. If anyone should benefit from the surplus..it should be the consumers...ME..I PAY $2 per ride. That rate increase was the largeest in history...build a 2nd avenue line...get new subway cars...as far i care...you guys dont deserve anything. you guys are just making it worse for yourself. i think its funny though...because you will suffer so much more than us. keep striking...its actually my only salvation that you lose two days pay for each day you strike and your union gets fined millions of dollars....i can live with that. can you?

2:24 PM

Unions are a thing of the past!
Any environment that merits an employee for how long they have been with the organiztion instead of how skilled they are at their job is a self-protecting sham. Your organization will far apart soon, so you might want to consider crossing the line so you don't lose your jobs forever. "Black-lists" are impossible to erase.
Anyone notice how the Big-3 auto-makers are folding under the costs of the UAW? What about the plane mechanics at NWA?

2:24 PM

I hope you never go back to work - the only people who are being affected are New Yorkers, and those Baathist loving communists deserve all the misery they can endure. All power to the unions, death to America! Yay!

New York sucks. I can only hope that other unions join the strike - living in garbage strewn streets could only improve the place.

2:24 PM

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